Multiple agrees to answers given to the same question? ('it is acceptable')
Thread poster: Judy Rojas
Judy Rojas
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Jul 26, 2004

I have noticed that many Kudoz questions have multiple “Agree” from the same colleague to different options of the same question.

I always felt that the purpose of the “Agree”, “Neutral”, and “Disagree” response was to guide the asker as to which was the “better” answer. By having one person agree to more than one answer the reader is left confused, rather than enlightened.

Perhaps there should be a limitation to the “agree” option.

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I have noticed that many Kudoz questions have multiple “Agree” from the same colleague to different options of the same question.

I always felt that the purpose of the “Agree”, “Neutral”, and “Disagree” response was to guide the asker as to which was the “better” answer. By having one person agree to more than one answer the reader is left confused, rather than enlightened.

Perhaps there should be a limitation to the “agree” option.


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Henry Dotterer
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Agree with anything that is correct... Jul 26, 2004

... disagree with anything that is wrong. That was the idea. I believe this helps the asker more than voting for one. It also allows you to agree/disagree without waiting for all the answers to come in.

 
Sormane Gomes
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More than one suggestion may apply. Jul 26, 2004

Ricardo Martinez de la Torre wrote:

By having one person agree to more than one answer the reader is left confused, rather than enlightened.


I have to disagree with you on that. I agree that sometimes people give several \'agrees\' because they want to collect a lot of points, but depending on the term/question asked, more than one suggestion may apply. Especially when, most of the time, we get very little context or none at all.
Because the asker has the whole context/document in front of him/her,
they should be able to pick the most appropriate suggestion.

Sormane


 
Juan Jacob
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Multiple agrees to multiple correct answers Jul 26, 2004

It occurs sometimes that several -and different- answers are correct: to put several agrees, I think, helps the asker and offers him wider possibilities to choose and not, as you say: "...the reader is left confused, rather than enlightened."
IMHO.


 
Sol
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I agree Jul 26, 2004

If more than one answer is good, I don't see any reason not to agree with all of them. This is especially true when people give better answers after we have agreed with one. If I only had one "agree" to use, I would find myself in a situation of having to take my "vote" away from the first person to give it to the second. Which brings me to another point: we are notified when the asker adds information, but not when someone else answers the question. I think that we should be notified every ... See more
If more than one answer is good, I don't see any reason not to agree with all of them. This is especially true when people give better answers after we have agreed with one. If I only had one "agree" to use, I would find myself in a situation of having to take my "vote" away from the first person to give it to the second. Which brings me to another point: we are notified when the asker adds information, but not when someone else answers the question. I think that we should be notified every time a new answer is added, so we can evaluate all the choices, not just the ones given up to the time when we happen to be there.

And since I'm talking about this, I would like to mention the confusion caused when people change their minds in "notes" but the "agrees" don't specify which answer they are agreeing with. Personally, when I no longer can agree with my own answer, I hide it! I think it's very important to do that, since in the list at the top it will look as if the agrees were with the original proposed translation, not the second or third.

Anyway, I think I got out on the limbs already... sorry for not sticking to the point.
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Judy Rojas
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I see... Jul 26, 2004

Personaly, when I feel that an answer has been proposed that is better than the one I had previously agreed with I change my rating from "agree" to "Neutral". In dicating the reasons why. That way the asker can get a better idea of what I thought was the more appropriate answer.

It was just an idea.


 
Paul Lambert
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Since when did translation ever have just one right answer? Jul 26, 2004

The way I see it, translation is one of the few industries where there is no right or wrong. Sure, a 'five star hotel' or an 'incubator' or a 'modem' are all words which we can't argue with and have only one possible transltion solution, but many phrases and ideas can be used to translate an idea or concept. Take this example I recently had to translate in a promotional article on tourism in Galicia: I came up with both 'Galicia - Spain's hidden gem', and 'Galicia - a different Spain' - is eithe... See more
The way I see it, translation is one of the few industries where there is no right or wrong. Sure, a 'five star hotel' or an 'incubator' or a 'modem' are all words which we can't argue with and have only one possible transltion solution, but many phrases and ideas can be used to translate an idea or concept. Take this example I recently had to translate in a promotional article on tourism in Galicia: I came up with both 'Galicia - Spain's hidden gem', and 'Galicia - a different Spain' - is either of these more 'correct'? Both worked well as titles for the article, and I would expect 'agrees' for both had I put them down as translation suggestions for this article.

My point is - translation is not a scientific industry where you can apply an X times Y plus Z formula and produce a definitive answer - there are many rights (and wrongs!!).
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Derek Gill Franßen
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A great system... Jul 26, 2004

I think that the system is well designed to give the asker a grasp of what possibilities there are. I honestly doubt that a "thinking" asker (i.e. one usually supplying the necessary context) will be confused by multiple agreements. I for one like to agree with the suggestions that I find good, suitable or that add to the discussion. I understand the whole system as being a platform for discussions to develope and evolve. I believe that the Asker "gets more for the money" this way.

 


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