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Csaba Ban  Identity Verified
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Jun 9, 2003

I am pleased to announce that a new ProZ baby was born yesterday (Whit Sunday).
Levente (a pre-Christian Hungarian name) now enjoys the benefit of a pre-Babel era, and he is fully conversant in a cross-border, cross-culture baby-speak.
It's too bad when we reach the age of 1 or 2, we start being classified as speakers (and nationals) of a single subset of mankind.
Perhaps that's our professional challenge and responsibility: building bridges and weaving a web between these diverging subsets and at least pretend that mankind can still communicate with itself...

Csaba (another pre-Christian Hungarian name), of the subset called "Hungarian", and an avid bridge-builder


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Sarah Ponting  Identity Verified
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CONGRATULATIONS!!! Jun 9, 2003

and long may he remain multilingual

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Claudia Iglesias  Identity Verified
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Welcome Jun 9, 2003

to this new baby in this multilingual World.

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Lucinda  Identity Verified
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Congratulations!!! Jun 9, 2003

Congratulations with this happy event!

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murat karahan  Identity Verified
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Congratulations Jun 9, 2003

Congratulations Csaba, and as we say "may he grow up with his parents being always around"

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Ralf Lemster  Identity Verified
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Great news! Jun 9, 2003

Congratulations to all of you - and all the very best for the new ProZie!

Best regards, Ralf


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Attila Piróth  Identity Verified
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Congratulations! Jun 9, 2003

Very nice choice of name! in Hungarian there is a funny (and rather difficult) game: you can speak with using only "e" out of all the wovels. Somewhat like this:

Kedves Levente, ezer perces emberke! Cseperedj fel szeretetben, s kedveljen meg ezer s ezer ember! Leld kedved tengerekben, hegyekben s messze rengetegekben. Meglehet: ehhez nyelvek kellenek, de, e remek (s cseppet sem szedett-vedett) webhely erre termett!

His name is already perfect for one more language!

And of course, I wish a lot of happiness to you, parents, too.

Attila


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Gayle Wallimann  Identity Verified
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Best wishes Jun 9, 2003

My very best wishes to Levente and his parents. What a special moment in your lives! Enjoy every second of it, and I wish you many, many years of happiness together.

Gayle


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Kemal Mustajbegovic  Identity Verified
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Congratulations!!! Jun 9, 2003

Congratulations to proud parents!

And for you, young man Levente - have a long and prosperous life!

Kemal


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Albert Golub  Identity Verified
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say arreuhhhhh to him from my part Jun 9, 2003

that's the first word commonly noticed in baby talk in france!! How would you translate it in Hungarian????

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Aurora Humarán  Identity Verified
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CONGRATS CSABA! Jun 9, 2003

May he also be a great bridge builder, whatever the two sides are...

¡Un abrazo fuerte desde la Argentina!

Aurora


First words:

The first word babies are “taught” in Spanish (in Argentine Spanish, at least) is AJÓ.
Teach him this first word in as many languages as possible and give him the right to choose!…


[Edited at 2003-06-09 13:18]


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Monika Coulson  Identity Verified
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Congratulations... Jun 9, 2003

to the proud parents of this new baby. I wish lots of happiness to Levente and I hope all is well with the mother as well. Welcome to this world Levente.

Monika

[Edited at 2003-06-09 14:04]


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María Alejandra Funes
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Congratulations! Jun 9, 2003

These are great news!!!

I can hear these words coming out from my tummy, "¡Felicitaciones!, "Mabruk!, Congratulations! and Félicitation!"

Enjoy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ALE


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sabina moscatelli  Identity Verified
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Congratulations Jun 9, 2003

because children are life most precious gift.

sabina


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Csaba Ban  Identity Verified
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Thank you for your kind words Jun 9, 2003

Thank you all for your kind words...
A few responses:

According to an ethimology theory, "Levente" comes from "le(v)-" (the Hungarian verbal root for "to be"), plus an ancient suffix, so the name is supposed to mean something like "little being". On the other hand, a secondary meaning is also attached to this name, and that's exactly like in Turkish (What a coincidence! or perhaps not... worth investigating. Levente'nin ad macarca da genC ve güClü bir adam anlama geliyor.)

Eszperente: This is what the popular linguistic game is called when you have to produce phrases and sentences using only a single vowel: "e". Hungarian uses 14 vowels altogether, but "e" is by far the most common. The rule of vowel harmony means that the vowel in any suffix (and we have LOADS of them) must agree with that of the root. This produces such quite commonly used words as "elengedhetetlen" (indispensible), etc.
The game itself is called "eszperente", twisting the name of the artificial language kindly invented by Mr Zamenhof.
(E jeles lengyel ember szerezte e nyelvet, melyen nemzetek serege cseveghetne, de erre nem veselkedtek eme nemzetek - de nekem, s velem egyetemben rengeteg embernek "eszperente" nyelven lehet csevegnem kellemesen

http://www.tar.hu/frameset.phtml?path=/eszperente/

What Hungarian babies are supposed to say is "oá".

Mom is also absolutely fine. Luckily enough, Zita had a relatively easy delivery.
("Zita" is originally a Latin name, meaning "quick". In Hungary the name has gained some popularity since the 1920's, especially among families with some aristocratic background, as Zita was the last queen, the wife of king Charles IV (Habsburg) (ruling as emperor Charles VI in Austria), who were forced to abdicate from the throne in November 1918. This particular Zita died as late as 1989, when tens of thousands of K.u.K. nostalgists from both Austria and Hungary escorted her to her last voyage. (K.u.K stands for "emperor and king", more precisely "imperial and royal", i.e. the ill-fated Austro-Hungarian monarchy. Interestingly enough, there is a much stronger K.u.K. nostalgy in Hungary than in Austria))

again, thank you for your congrats,

Csaba


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