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Can anyone identify this language? Thread poster: Cilian O'Tuama
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PAS 
Local time: 13:06
Polish to English
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I visited the contextinc site and could not find my way to that picture...
The name of that particular page is "scans.html".
What if these are just a bunch of diacriticals put together any which way for the purpose of e.g. proving the scanning ability of a particular piece of software?
Unlikely, I know, because the patterns repeat (the first 3 'words' in the first 2 lines repeat etc.)
Maybe it's ciphered text? I'm sure there is an enterprising fanatic among ... See more I visited the contextinc site and could not find my way to that picture...
The name of that particular page is "scans.html".
What if these are just a bunch of diacriticals put together any which way for the purpose of e.g. proving the scanning ability of a particular piece of software?
Unlikely, I know, because the patterns repeat (the first 3 'words' in the first 2 lines repeat etc.)
Maybe it's ciphered text? I'm sure there is an enterprising fanatic among us who would be willing to give it a try.
Just some thoughts on an interesting discussion.
Pawel Skalinski ▲ Collapse
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| It is Greek in wrong code page (our codepage) | Aug 21, 2003 |
.. as I pointed out in my 2nd posting ..
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Sara Noss
United Kingdom
Local time: 12:06
Member (2006)
French to English
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| To Daniel Bird | Aug 21, 2003 |
Daniel,
Don't believe him, I hear he's a liar!
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Cheers,
Sara.
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| Yes, it's Greek and it says... | Aug 21, 2003 |
in Greek "Ï ÷ñÞóôçò äåí õðÜñ÷åé. Ï ÷ñÞóôçò äåí âñÝèçêå. ×ñçóéìïðïéÞóôå ôï êïõìðß ôçò ÅðéóôñïöÞò."
in Greekish "O xristis den yparxei. O xristis den vrethike. Xrisimopoihste to koumpi tis epistrofis."
which in English means "User does not exist. User not found. Use the Return button".
It is in the wrong Codepage. By comparing a Greek html page viewed in the right Codepage with the same page viewed in t... See more in Greek "Ï ÷ñÞóôçò äåí õðÜñ÷åé. Ï ÷ñÞóôçò äåí âñÝèçêå. ×ñçóéìïðïéÞóôå ôï êïõìðß ôçò ÅðéóôñïöÞò."
in Greekish "O xristis den yparxei. O xristis den vrethike. Xrisimopoihste to koumpi tis epistrofis."
which in English means "User does not exist. User not found. Use the Return button".
It is in the wrong Codepage. By comparing a Greek html page viewed in the right Codepage with the same page viewed in the wrong Codepage, it's easy to find wich letter corresponds to each character. Then decoding is rather easy.
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| Yes, it's Greek and it says... | Aug 21, 2003 |
in Greek "Ï ×ñÞóôçò äåí õðÜñ÷åé. Ï ×ñÞóôçò äåí âñÝèçêå. ×ñçóéìïðïéÞóôå ôï êïõìðß ôçò ÅðéóôñïöÞò."
which in English means "User does not exist. User not found. Use the Return button."
It was a bit difficult to decode it but Harry_B showed the path to the solution.
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Cilian O'Tuama
Germany
Local time: 13:06
German to English
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TOPIC STARTER | Thank you everyone.. | Aug 21, 2003 |
.. for sorting this out for me. It was well worth waiting for!
Someone came in off the street and asked us to translate it. She said it was the last few lines of an email she had received. I'm sure she'll be thrilled when she finds out what it means.
Thanks again.
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DGK T-I
United Kingdom
Local time: 12:06
Georgian to English
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| To Daniel Bird & Sara :-) | Aug 21, 2003 |
There's a guy...
...works down the chipshop swears it's Elvish.
I've been waiting YEARS to do this gag, so humour me.
DB
Babayaga wrote: Daniel, Don't believe him, I hear he's a liar! ) Cheers, Sara.
Or is it that elves and humans have a different concept of truth, because they follow a different code
Giuli
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| Possibly corrupted Cyrillic | Aug 22, 2003 |
This happens when using TRADOS. If the source font is set to Arial TRADOS always corrupts the text when validating the segment.
To view the restored translation I go to Tools>Recover Corrupted Text.
Hope that helps.
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Sprachprof (X)
Local time: 13:06
Latin to English
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| Codepage Conversion Tool | Aug 22, 2003 |
I found a very useful add-in to Microsoft Word online somewhere: csdecode.dot, which can put texts like the above into its correct code page again.
It supports the following code pages and it can convert between any of them:
ANSI code page
OEM code page
Arabic (Windows)
Baltic (Windows)
Center European (Windows & Dos)
Simplified Chinese (GB2312 and HZ)
Traditional Chinese (Big5)
Cyrillic (Windows & Dos)
Greek (Windows)
He... See more I found a very useful add-in to Microsoft Word online somewhere: csdecode.dot, which can put texts like the above into its correct code page again.
It supports the following code pages and it can convert between any of them:
ANSI code page
OEM code page
Arabic (Windows)
Baltic (Windows)
Center European (Windows & Dos)
Simplified Chinese (GB2312 and HZ)
Traditional Chinese (Big5)
Cyrillic (Windows & Dos)
Greek (Windows)
Hebrew (Windows)
Japanese (5 forms and automatic)
Korean (3 forms and automatic)
Thai (Windows)
Turkish (Windows)
Unicode (UTF-7 and UTF-8)
User defined
Vietnamese (Windows)
Western European
It has proven very valuable to me because I have Chinese and Greek penfriends, whose e-mails usually look like the text above until I decode them. And this add-in is free.
Sorry I can't tell you exactly on which webpage I found it, probably download.com . ▲ Collapse
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Daniel Bird
United Kingdom
Local time: 12:06
German to English
| What a strange turn that thread took... | Aug 22, 2003 |
Babayaga wrote: You are so right. All too often I make the mistake of confusing our mores with those of other realms. I upset a goblin once by committing the very same error. ) Have a good weekend! Sara. PS - It was a nice way to be reminded of a great song though.  http://www.kirstymaccoll.com/lyrics/lyrics/chipshop.htm[/quote] ...good to see we're all demob happy at the end of a long week Best Dan | | | |
Dylan Edwards
United Kingdom
Local time: 12:06
Greek to English
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| It's Greek, probably | Aug 23, 2003 |
I think it's a wrongly encoded alphabet. I tried it with Cyrillic first, but didn't get any convincing results.
Then I found that it looks even more like wrongly encoded Greek - Greek as I see it on ProZ.com before I switch to Greek Alphabet (Windows). The results look very promising so far.
The first two lines seem to say:
O christis den yparchei
The user does not exist
O christis den vrethike
The user was not found
Yes, it really does se... See more I think it's a wrongly encoded alphabet. I tried it with Cyrillic first, but didn't get any convincing results.
Then I found that it looks even more like wrongly encoded Greek - Greek as I see it on ProZ.com before I switch to Greek Alphabet (Windows). The results look very promising so far.
The first two lines seem to say:
O christis den yparchei
The user does not exist
O christis den vrethike
The user was not found
Yes, it really does seem to be Greek, complete with two kinds of lower-case sigma (s): o acute for the initial and medial sigma, and o grave for the final sigma.
The letter which looks like a p in the handwriting is probably the Anglo-Saxon (or Icelandic) letter which I think is called "thorn", and on the evidence I've seen so far, this corresponds to a Greek lower-case eta with an accent on it (yes, an accented Greek vowel comes out as something completely different from its unaccented counterpart).
My guess is that the first word on the next line is Chrisimopoiiste, "Use" (imperative).
It would take me a while to work out the rest. Perhaps I'll return to it later.
Apologies for complicating things by using transliterated Greek, which doesn't correspond on an exact letter-for-letter basis to the Greek spelling (my experience with keying in Greek on ProZ.com is that sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't) - but I think anyone with a knowledge of Greek will see what I'm trying to say here.
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Dylan Edwards
United Kingdom
Local time: 12:06
Greek to English
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| I arrived at the same answer. It's Greek. | Aug 23, 2003 |
When I posted my answer earlier today, I hadn't seen Dimitra Karamperi's answer. I've just worked out the last bit about the return button/key.
I agree entirely.
Just a final comment: I can't really follow the path this discussion took, but one or two people were on the right track early on...
I'm not sure all the original Greek was correctly accented, and the word for "use" (xrisimopoiiste) still looks to me as if it has a letter missing (the i before the m).
... See more When I posted my answer earlier today, I hadn't seen Dimitra Karamperi's answer. I've just worked out the last bit about the return button/key.
I agree entirely.
Just a final comment: I can't really follow the path this discussion took, but one or two people were on the right track early on...
I'm not sure all the original Greek was correctly accented, and the word for "use" (xrisimopoiiste) still looks to me as if it has a letter missing (the i before the m).
I'm glad to say I've never had to do a translation assignment like this, though a couple of times I've had to "translate" English which was printed in a Greek font.
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Mario Marcolin
Sweden
Local time: 13:06
Member (2003)
English to Swedish
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| South American? | Aug 26, 2003 |
It could be a transcript of some South American Indian language.
Amazonas:The use of "ç" may indicate Portuguese/Brazilian language transcriptor.
Now I see the previous post. Sorry
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Marco Cevoli
Spain
Local time: 13:06
Spanish to Italian
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| Found tool in Download.com | Sep 2, 2003 |
Sprachprof wrote:
I found a very useful add-in to Microsoft Word online somewhere: csdecode.dot, which can put texts like the above into its correct code page again.
Sorry I can't tell you exactly on which webpage I found it, probably download.com .
Here it is:
Name: Charset Decoding 1.06
Link: http://download.com.com/3000-2064-10127586.html?tag=lst-0-21
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