Need help finding the translation in French
Thread poster: xxxjenbikkal


Local time: 14:28
French to English
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Apr 27, 2011

I am usually really good at finding things online, but here , I cannot seem to find the French version of this quote:

“If language is not correct, then what is said is not what is meant;

if what is said is not what is meant, then what must be done remains undone;

if this remains undone, morals and art will deteriorate;

if justice goes astray, the people will stand about in helpless confusion.

Hence there must be no arbitrariness in what is said. This matters above everything.”


I went on French websites for "proverbes" looked under Confucius, couldn't find this specific one.

Does anyone have any ideas? Or does anyone have this in French already?


[Edited at 2011-04-27 20:16 GMT]

[Edited at 2011-04-27 20:48 GMT]

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Phil Hand  Identity Verified
Local time: 03:28
Chinese to English
Reference Apr 27, 2011

It's from the Analects, chapter 13 (Zi Lu), proverb 3. I'm sure there are lots of translations out there - can't tell if these web translations are any good:
("Si les noms...")
("Quand le protocole..."

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Katy Plokarz
Local time: 20:28
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+1 Apr 27, 2011

Another translation of these "analectes"


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