Segmentation memoQ 2013 R2
Thread poster: Nick Quaintmere

Nick Quaintmere  Identity Verified
Germany
Local time: 23:37
German to English
Feb 14, 2014

Hi guys, can anyone help with this? I'd like memoQ to segment my source text so that it splits the text at every linebreak ([br] - here with square brackets, but normally with < and >, of course).

As I (like probably 99% of memoQ users) haven't got the slightest clue about RegEx, can someone let me know how to do this?

I wish memoQ would come up with a more user friendly way of doing this ... I'm sure I don't have to go through this rigmarole in SDL Studio! If I'd wanted to learn how to be a programmer, I'd have done that, not become a translator!

[Edited at 2014-02-14 11:05 GMT]


 

Carl Carter
Germany
Local time: 23:37
German to English
Regular expressions are just extra tools for specialists Feb 14, 2014

Hi Nick,

I recommend you to ask this in the memoQ user group at Yahoo as the topic of regex keeps on cropping up in discussions there. You can also ask Support at Kilgray, of course.

Regular expressions are a special way of handling source texts in memoQ and are used in its segmentation and tagging rules (-> regex tagger). Kilgray has provided quite a number of these pre-defined rules in the package, but not enough to meet everyone's needs, which vary enormously. I think you should simply regard them as extra ways of preparing texts for translation in memoQ above and beyond the standard ones.

Regex is, as you say, very complicated for most users because it's so abstract. It reminds me of SQL commands in Déjà Vu X, actually, which are also hard to get your head round. They're both extra tools for those who can use them, not standard ones intended for everyone.

Regards,

Carl


 

Nick Quaintmere  Identity Verified
Germany
Local time: 23:37
German to English
TOPIC STARTER
RegEx a pain Feb 14, 2014

Thanks for your response Carl. And the explanation - although I did actually know all that already. It's just that I don't the time, inclination or, I fear, the aptitude to learn it just to be able to do the things I ought to able to do in memoQ (or Trados for that matters). I shall try the avenues you suggested. Or maybe someone here knows enough ...

I feel that Kilgray has really missed the boat on this one. Expecting users to have to learn RegEx commands to do something as basic and fundamental as segmentation is really poor. Hopefully, they'll implement some basic, user-friendly method for achieving the same thing in the future.


 

Valery Afanasiev  Identity Verified
Russian Federation
Local time: 00:37
English to Russian
+ ...
Nick, U R not alone Feb 15, 2014

People around pay hundreds of dollars for not being sure if they are undertstood in their temptations. I recently had a real issue to explain what I wanted from their software worth of good hundrerds of US$ and believe the reply wasn't what I would publish.

Conclusion and Finding: Being "too demanding" may fail your expectations. Let me express my deep respect to Kilgray. They do all what they can and above. Learn to use them.

I wouldn't call it the ideal and best forever. Not at all. But here and today they are.

I am about to turn the entire Kazakhstan from SDL into Kilgray within this year.


 

István Lengyel
Hungary
Local time: 23:37
English to Hungarian
+ ...
Regex and simple use cases Feb 19, 2014

Hi Nick,

I think I rather give a short explanation here. Regex is a very powerful tool and we decided to use this to address everyone's needs in functionality. This was before memoQ became a leading tool. We understand now that user requirements are very different than in e.g. 2008, and will improve a lot in this area in 2014 (in the 2014 R2 release). What's more, we plan to learn about usage patterns and then we can offer better defaults.

István


 

Nick Quaintmere  Identity Verified
Germany
Local time: 23:37
German to English
TOPIC STARTER
Looking to forward to an update Feb 20, 2014

Thank you István for your input. I think I am not alone in having this problem and now that memoQ is becoming deservedly more and more popular, it is time it got looked at.

I look forward to seeing a release that includes a user-friendly feature that allows segmentation after standard punctuation or tags. memoQ is a great piece of software and getting better all the time.

But it would be nice if someone could actually address the original questionicon_wink.gif


 


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