"Amazing" rates from the agency which just won a big contract
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Rad Graban  Identity Verified
United Kingdom
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Apr 9, 2010

An agency just won a big contract starting 1st May. What do you think of their offered rates?
(Personally, it doesn't surprise me they've been advertising weekly for the past four weeks all over the shop. People don't seem to be rushing to apply.)

NEW PAYMENT CODES FOR PUBLIC SERVICE INTERPRETERS VALID FROM 1ST JANUARY 2010

-CODE 1
(Central London NHS)
- Interpreting @ £17 per hour
(all inclusive, no travel time paid separately)
Note: You are likely to receive multiple bookings on the same day.
-CODE 2
(Legal: solicitor offices)
(Health, Housing, Social Services, Immigration, etc.):
- Interpreting @ £13 per hour +
- Travel Time* @ £5 per hour +
- Fares
* To be advised by your Booking Coordinator. Maximum 3 hours.
-CODE 3
(Legal: Court, Prison, etc.):
- Interpreting @ £16 per hour +
- Travel Time* @ £5 per hour +
- Fares
* To be advised by your Booking Coordinator. Maximum 3 hours.
-CODE 4
(Contract Clients):
£28 per hour for the 1st hour, £18 per hour for the consecutive hours
(all inclusive, no travel time and cost paid)
-CODE 5 (Evenings/Saturdays/Sundays):
- Interpreting × 1.5


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Edward Vreeburg  Identity Verified
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drop 'm like a hot patato! Apr 9, 2010

easy as 1 ..2 ...3...

I spiek also ferry goed Dunglish...
meebie eye shoeld applij

Ed


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Rifraf
Local time: 19:13
cleaning lady rates Apr 9, 2010

Do they really think that somebody will work for them on such terms?
I can't even imagine that the company can actually earn a living for itself of those measly rates.

A cleaning lady in the Netherlands earns even more!


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Laurent KRAULAND  Identity Verified
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Any idea why... Apr 9, 2010

Rad Graban wrote:

An agency just won a big contract starting 1st May. What do you think of their offered rates?
(Personally, it doesn't surprise me they've been advertising weekly for the past four weeks all over the shop. People don't seem to be rushing to apply.)


Any idea why this agency won this contract? I can think of one reason at least - no?


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Martin Stranak  Identity Verified
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Well... Apr 9, 2010

Some of the arguments made are more than 1 year old - credit crunch and government lowering the rates.

One might only sigh when finding out the exact rates quoted to the final customer by these agencies. Back at school, we were taught the basic principles of capitalism, which did not refer to economic expoiting of subcontractors directly. I wonder, what this "credit crunch" story reults in quality-wise.


Anyway, that´s reality, I can confirm this case is actually happening.


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Rad Graban  Identity Verified
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That's it. Apr 9, 2010

Laurent KRAULAND wrote:
Any idea why this agency won this contract? I can think of one reason at least - no?


That's exactly my point, Laurent. They've won the contract because they offered the client some pathetic rates without having their homework done and finding out how much interpreters actually charge. Now, from the frequency of their job postings (not only here but on every possible translators' and recruitment website), I think they are panicking a little bit as they can't find people who would work for such rates.


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Krzysztof Kajetanowicz  Identity Verified
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that's the problem Apr 9, 2010

with all kinds of services that people order on somebody else's behalf. Especially on behalf of non-private institutions!

Incidentally, it's called the agency problem...


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Andrei Yefimov  Identity Verified
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ignoring is not an option Apr 9, 2010

Krzysztof Kajetanowicz wrote:

Incidentally, it's called the agency problem...



While I agree it's the agency' problem, I think we will not be able to fight low rates unless we are consolidated. Ignoring is no longer an option.


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David Turner  Identity Verified
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Especially if all the good people... Apr 9, 2010

Rad Graban wrote:
They've won the contract because they offered the client some pathetic rates without having their homework done and finding out how much interpreters actually charge. Now, from the frequency of their job postings (not only here but on every possible translators' and recruitment website), I think they are panicking a little bit as they can't find people who would work for such rates.


... follow Danilo Nogueira's excellent advice.

http://accurapid.com/journal/39payments.htm


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Martin Stranak  Identity Verified
Czech Republic
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Brilliant article :-) Apr 9, 2010

David Turner wrote:

Rad Graban wrote:
They've won the contract because they offered the client some pathetic rates without having their homework done and finding out how much interpreters actually charge. Now, from the frequency of their job postings (not only here but on every possible translators' and recruitment website), I think they are panicking a little bit as they can't find people who would work for such rates.


... follow Danilo Nogueira's excellent advice.

http://accurapid.com/journal/39payments.htm


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Ines Burrell  Identity Verified
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I have not seen this offer and it worries me Apr 9, 2010

Because it means that they have found somebody in EN-LV language pair who has agreed to this already. Obviously, there are people working for nothing and happily taking abuse from this agency. The fact that the rates are so low is nothing new - they do not even pay the travel expenses or for travelling time!!! Ridiculous!

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Laurent KRAULAND  Identity Verified
France
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Ignoring may *not* be an option,... Apr 9, 2010

Andrei Yefimov wrote:

Krzysztof Kajetanowicz wrote:

Incidentally, it's called the agency problem...



While I agree it's the agency' problem, I think we will not be able to fight low rates unless we are consolidated. Ignoring is no longer an option.


but the fact that the agency seems to be panicking about finding interpreters at those rates is rather a good sign, if I am allowed to say (passive solidarity, no interest, whatever...).

Furthermore, and yes Krzystof, it is called the agency problem, because they should have searched for translators working at those rates before thinking about winning the tender.

Reverse logic never works quite the way one would expect it. And in this case, it shows how highly this agency values its subcontractors - at a level below a cleaning lady.

[Edited at 2010-04-09 14:50 GMT]


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oligyp
Local time: 13:13
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Not surprised... Apr 9, 2010

Not at all! I actually saw this happening on a HUGE contract with a government agency here in the United States, the company I was working for as a consultant was underbid by 9 million dollars!!! The new company did not want to pay me what I was making with the other company so I left. They have not made a profit in 5 years and work has been sooooo s l o w!!! Some people stayed because that's was the only job they had.icon_eek.gif(

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