| Pages in topic: < [1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9] > | How's this for nerve: major LSP will require a 5% discount from their "translation partners" Thread poster: Andrew Catford
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| My antenna must be bent | Nov 4, 2010 |
FWIW, I actually received the "Job Posting Pilot Program" mail, but I never did receive the "Lack-of-Reply-Address was a Mistake" mail. I also never received a response to the mail I did send letting them in on the status of their reputation. 
| | | | Adam Łobatiuk 
Poland
Local time: 17:16
Member (2009)
English to Polish
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| Job Posting Pilot Programme | Nov 4, 2010 |
Lisa Simpson wrote:Today they have launched their all-new 'Job Posting Pilot Programme' where we will be required to pay a subscription for the privilege of viewing and applying for any jobs!
The way I understood it is that you need to subscribe to Translation Workspace to take part in it, not to the program specifically:
Subscribe Today to Participate in Job Postings!
As a reminder, only Translation Workspace subscribers will be eligible to participate in our new Job Posting Program. Sign up today and be eligible to be in the pilot program and take advantage of Translation Workspace for all your translation projects!
Which is nothing new, really - non-local offices contacted me before without a special program. It's nice to see a change to the boring content of TW spam, though.
| | | | XXXphxxx (X)
United Kingdom
Local time: 16:16
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| Yes, you are right | Nov 4, 2010 |
Adam Łobatiuk wrote:
The way I understood it is that you need to subscribe to Translation Workspace to take part in it, not to the program specifically:
I was just taking a short cut. It's indeed worse: two subscriptions for the price of... two No work without one or the other or both in fact.
They may be under genuine pressure, I cannot judge that, but the speed with which they are thinking up new ways of trying to squeeze a buck can only turn people away. They may fail or they may succeed in their attempts if enough people still choose to sign up and agree to their increasingly ruthless work practices, time will tell, but I am hopeful there is still enough time for those who are heavily reliant on them as one of their main sources of income to start looking elsewhere.
[Edited at 2010-11-04 14:25 GMT]
| | | | Margreet Mohle
Canada
Local time: 11:16
Member (2010)
French to Dutch
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| Thanks from a new freelancer | Nov 4, 2010 |
This thread has been very informative for me. I had just viewed a webinar on the translation tool and was surprised by the "need to subscribe in order to work"; wondering if the flow of possible jobs would justify it. I won't bother now!
Good luck to those involved with the company, hope you find better sources for work soon.
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| Not sure about that | Nov 4, 2010 |
Krzysztof Kajetanowicz wrote:
A joke is worth laughing about or ignoring.
It rather depends what underlying attitudes the joke is based on. Some attitudes should not necessarily be ignored. I'm sure you don't need me to point out the kind of jokes I'm talking about. IMHO, the same applies to metaphorical jokes as literal ones.
And if anyone could privately send me the details they received about this job posting private prog, I would be grateful, ta.
Edit: Update, I now have the info in question, and my thanks to those who took the time and trouble to reply.
[Edited at 2010-11-04 17:08 GMT]
| | | | John Rawlins
Spain
Local time: 17:16
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Our major LSP is clearly on a roll here. I am sure a couple of executives are busy at this very moment working out the next 'special offer' for any translators foolish enough to agree to the Job Posting Pilot Programme.
Perhaps we help them in their task. Can I suggest:
- requiring all participating translators to open 'privileged' accounts at a designated bank in order to receive their payments.
- introducing a pyramid scheme whereby translators can earn ... See more Our major LSP is clearly on a roll here. I am sure a couple of executives are busy at this very moment working out the next 'special offer' for any translators foolish enough to agree to the Job Posting Pilot Programme.
Perhaps we help them in their task. Can I suggest:
- requiring all participating translators to open 'privileged' accounts at a designated bank in order to receive their payments.
- introducing a pyramid scheme whereby translators can earn from a percentage of the work performed by other translators whom they have introduced.
- a monthly 'Shareholder's Sunday' program whereby translators work for free one Sunday a month so that the company shareholders can be made to feel special.
- minimum payment transfers of a thousand dollars with a small service charge for safekeeping accrued but unpaid sums.
- dispensing with payments altogether and simply offering credits to be used in the 'Trusted Translators Gift Shop'.
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| | | | | Are they reading this? | Nov 4, 2010 |
Riveting thread!
Does anyone know whether the Leonine River-Crossing entity has read this thread - or taken any of the comments on board?
As the King of the Jungle entity is listed on Proz, my bet is that it certainly has read it - and probably hasn't taken it on board.
Keep roaring,
Jenny
| | | | Adam Łobatiuk
Poland
Local time: 17:16
Member (2009)
English to Polish
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| Pilot Programme | Nov 4, 2010 |
As I tried to explain before, in my opinion the programme is not a seperate paid scheme, but a new incentive to subscribe to Translator Workspace. They certainly should have worded it more clearly.
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Alex Eames
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| The full text is on the web | Nov 4, 2010 |
Charlie Bavington wrote:
And if anyone could privately send me the details they received about this job posting private prog, I would be grateful, ta.[Edited at 2010-11-04 17:08 GMT]
If anyone would like to see it less privately, it was kindly posted as comment #5 on this page
| | | | Laurent KRAULAND (X)
France
Local time: 17:16
French to German
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Adam Łobatiuk wrote:
As I tried to explain before, in my opinion the programme is not a seperate paid scheme, but a new incentive to subscribe to Translator Workspace. They certainly should have worded it more clearly.
Language service provider, right?
| | | | | Post removed: This post was hidden by a moderator or staff member because it was not in line with site rule | | View from a potential client | Nov 4, 2010 |
About two weeks ago I received a friendly call from a gentleman who introduced himself as representing a leonine company.
Having read previous threads here at ProZ about said company, my instinct was to commence a discussion about quality. But I was too busy and cut him off with my standard: we keep all translation in-house (almost true).
How I, as a freelancer as well as an in-house employee, would have loved to start a discussion about the way they source their suppl... See more About two weeks ago I received a friendly call from a gentleman who introduced himself as representing a leonine company.
Having read previous threads here at ProZ about said company, my instinct was to commence a discussion about quality. But I was too busy and cut him off with my standard: we keep all translation in-house (almost true).
How I, as a freelancer as well as an in-house employee, would have loved to start a discussion about the way they source their suppliers/translators, ensure quality and numerous other issues that might affect the quality of the product they supply.
Next time he calls me I’ll make sure to find some time to discuss these issues. ▲ Collapse
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| No peanuts for translators | Nov 5, 2010 |
Simone Linke wrote: Sheila Wilson wrote:
Polite or simply professional?
My existing and potential clients have free access to this forum, as do yours. I certainly wouldn't like my clients to read my rant about another client. As I said in my posting, I would never consider working for them and I did not appreciate their email. End of story.
I was just going to post on the same subject but with a contrary opinion. As far as I know, (end) clients cannot access the Blue Board (or can they?), right? So, a potential client looking to hire an LSP does not have access to first-hand information from those working for the LSP. I've seen various LSPs promoting their services with phrases like "we only use top-notch linguists with very strict QA processes....". Some of the LSPs are certainly entitled to claim so, because they really do as they say. However, I've also experienced cases in which the LSP's claims weren't really backed by their internal processes. Of course, some end clients might not care at all about how the linguists are treated and how quality is assured. But some may do. Some may say, hey, we don't want to hire an LSP that gobbles up all the profit and forces the linguists to perform rush jobs without adequate pay (thus leading to a deterioration of quality). Shouldn't there be some way for these end clients to hear from the people who work for the LSP? Maybe the forums aren't the best place to do that.. but is there any other place? Personally, I'm glad about the existence of this thread since I've also had this LSP on my radar for a while and will thus not fall into their trap one day. So, thanks to the original poster(s).
| | | | Adam Łobatiuk
Poland
Local time: 17:16
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English to Polish
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