URGENT - PayPal Fraud / Scam
Thread poster: Amanda Grey

Amanda Grey  Identity Verified
Local time: 02:20
French to English
Dec 14, 2004

I have just received this e-mail:

Dear PayPal customer,
It has come to our attention that when logging into PayPal,
you or somebody else have made several login attempts and reached
your daily attempt limit. As an additional security measure your
access to PayPal will be limited in the next 24 hours if you do not
verify your identity.


Please verify your details clicking on the link above, before trying to
log in again. You will be able to attempt logging into PayPal account
immediately after you verify your identity without any limitations
applying to your account.

PayPal Account Review Team
PayPal, an eBay Company

When you click on the link it takes you to a page which is not secure (https: ) and looks nothing like PayPal's official site. You are asked to complete all bank information, including credit card number, expiry date, etc.

DO NOT under any circumstances reply - it is a scam. Forward the mail to scams@fraudwatchinternational.com

Let your friends know if they have PayPal accounts. I have only had one for a month and I very nearly fell for this!

[Edited at 2004-12-14 08:42]

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Ralf Lemster  Identity Verified
Local time: 02:20
English to German
+ ...
Please edit your posting Dec 14, 2004

Hi Amanda,
Thanks for posting this - the practice of 'phishing' is pretty widespread, and isn't limited to Paypal.

However, openly including the related URLs defeats the purpose of your warning, doesn't it?

Could you please edit your posting by removing the offending URLs?

Thanks, Ralf

[Edited at 2004-12-14 08:56]


Alaa Zeineldine  Identity Verified
Local time: 02:20
Member (2002)
English to Arabic
+ ...
Does this URL work? Dec 14, 2004

If it does, then please edit your posting and change it so no one goes there by mistake. You can insert a couple of spaces or slashes just to make the URL invalid.



Alaa Zeineldine  Identity Verified
Local time: 02:20
Member (2002)
English to Arabic
+ ...
I defer to Ralf's suggestion then. Dec 14, 2004

Ralf Lemster wrote:

Could you please edit your posting by removing the offending URLs?

Thanks, Ralf

[Edited at 2004-12-14 08:56]


vixen  Identity Verified
Local time: 03:20
Member (2002)
English to Dutch
+ ...
Check PayPal website Dec 14, 2004

Check out the PayPal website for more information on recognizing spoof e-mails and how to handle them. Forward the e-mail to spoof@paypal.com.

See https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_help-ext&leafid=2104&answer_id=4940129

[Edited at 2004-12-14 16:15]


Harry Bornemann  Identity Verified
English to German
+ ...
This URL would not work anyway Dec 14, 2004

The displayed URL is different from the URL described and contained in the email, that's the trick.
But by copying into the posting the "invisible" URL in the original anchor tag was lost. So there is no danger in this thread.


Konstantin Kisin  Identity Verified
United Kingdom
Local time: 01:20
Member (2004)
Russian to English
+ ...
The trick is always... Dec 14, 2004

Be it your bank, paypal or anyone else, they will always send you a personalised e-mail (i.e. Dear Mrs. Grey, Dear etc.

You can safely delete anything without such an introduction.


Heike Behl, Ph.D.  Identity Verified
United States
Local time: 17:20
Member (2003)
English to German
+ ...
even addressing someone with their full name is no guarantee Dec 14, 2004

I got one phishing e-mail where they actually did know my full name!

So, never trust any kind of e-mail, no matter how personal or official it looks, that requests any type of personal information. Particularly, since most of us have personal information such as name and e-mail address readily available to the public anyways.

If in doubt, call their office or send them e-mail through an offical address and find out if the e-mail is kosher.

There is no such thing as paranoia when it comes to e-mails, virusses and phishing!


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