An issue about a payment from an agency
Thread poster: Branka Ramadanovic

Branka Ramadanovic  Identity Verified
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Oct 15, 2014

Dear fellow translators,

I have an issue with an outstanding payment with an agency from Greece. I will not name them here, but I will certainly rate them with 1 on BB soon unless they pay tomorrow, as they have promised. They owe me a large amount which was due last month. I am concerned and willing to post them as non-payers unless they pay soon. I would appreciate it if you can please tell me what are all the other non-payer lists where I can post their name, in addition to the Blue Board here, so that other translators do not get into the same problem. Of course, unless they pay.

Thanks in advance,
Branka


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golf264  Identity Verified
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Too bad, but it seems to be a regular practice - fraud Oct 16, 2014

As far as I know, there is no such list - you must mean a kind of blacklist. That seems like a good idea, in order to become or remain blacklisted in that list, we could impose a minimum number of reports over a certain period of time as a requirement.

What seems to me to be the best is a system of compulsory payment-advances (to which all translators adhere, so no scabs who still do work in exchange for promises of payment), a basic insurance-system on which translators can fall back upon through a membership/premium, and also a system of litigation support. What the latter should look like, I do not know myself, but it can be developed to the desired result. Maybe it consists of advice, discounts on lawyers, and more of all that good stuff.

Thus it will eliminate the fraudsters. There is a global crisis, and then you see many people eagerly abuse the system. Not only our profession by the way, but we need to stand in solidarity and secure our common interests secure by consolidating.

I also mentioned the above in another topic, I want to spread this message as much as possible, so that everyone becomes aware of the dangers and possible solutions.


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Samuel Murray  Identity Verified
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Forum rules Oct 16, 2014

Branka Ramadanovic wrote:
I would appreciate it if you can please tell me what are all the other non-payer lists where I can post their name, in addition to the Blue Board here, so that other translators do not get into the same problem. Of course, unless they pay.


You should post a negative review on them regardless of whether they pay.

I'm not sure if forum rules allow us to post details of other blacklists, but here are two of them:
* http://www.paymentpractices.net/
* https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/WPPF/info


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Samuel Murray  Identity Verified
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@Golf Oct 16, 2014

golf264 wrote:
As far as I know, there is no such list - you must mean a kind of blacklist. That seems like a good idea, in order to become or remain blacklisted in that list, we could impose a minimum number of reports over a certain period of time as a requirement.


Blacklists that simply blacklist a client without any further comment or information aren't useful to translators, because different translators accept different levels of risk in their businesses. It is more useful for translators to read about others' experiences of agencies, in my opinion.


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Branka Ramadanovic  Identity Verified
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Dear Samuel Oct 16, 2014

I appreciate your comment, I will.

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You should... Oct 16, 2014

Samuel Murray wrote:
You should post a negative review on them regardless of whether they pay.


I agree!!


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golf264  Identity Verified
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Hmmm ok but... Oct 16, 2014

Samuel Murray wrote:

golf264 wrote:
As far as I know, there is no such list - you must mean a kind of blacklist. That seems like a good idea, in order to become or remain blacklisted in that list, we could impose a minimum number of reports over a certain period of time as a requirement.


Blacklists that simply blacklist a client without any further comment or information aren't useful to translators, because different translators accept different levels of risk in their businesses. It is more useful for translators to read about others' experiences of agencies, in my opinion.


Where did you see in my reaction that the blacklist should contain no further comments or information?


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