Payment issue with a client
Thread poster: Mohamad Salah
Mohamad Salah
Egypt
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May 1

Hi colleagues,

I have an unpaid invoice of more than 900 USD for more than 1 year with a client in India. I sent them dozens of mails and called them too much times and every time they say we will pay and promise a date for payment, but this payment never happened. I have all mails archived, can anybody give me an idea what are the actions I should take in order to get my money?

Thanks for your help in advance.


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Susan Welsh  Identity Verified
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check the forums May 1

Such questions have been discussed thousands of times.
http://www.proz.com/?sp=forum&action=SearchForum&advanced=y


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Yolanda Broad  Identity Verified
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Blue Board May 1

Make an entry in the Blue Board. Here's a link to get you started: http://www.proz.com/blueboard/?&sp_mode=entry

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Nikki Scott-Despaigne  Identity Verified
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Additionally and hints for the future May 1

You will find lots of threads on this subject. You will find a number of helpful posts about how to try and get your money. Whatever the outcome, learn from this experience.

For the future, bear in mind the following:
- react as soon as your client is late with payment;
- increase the severity of your formal demands (polite reminder, reminder with deadline, formal demand with tight deadline and indication of consequences of non-payment);
- when you are in country A and your client is in country B, recovering payment can be more complicated and is often expensive;
- given the increased difficulty and expense of recovering money from clients in another country, limit such jobs to amounts to can (almost) afford to lose.


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Maija Cirule  Identity Verified
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Maybe May 1

Mohamad Salah wrote:

Hi colleagues,

I have an unpaid invoice of more than 900 USD for more than 1 year with a client in India. I sent them dozens of mails and called them too much times and every time they say we will pay and promise a date for payment, but this payment never happened. I have all mails archived, can anybody give me an idea what are the actions I should take in order to get my money?

Thanks for your help in advance.

a baseball bit and a local bully could do the trick? I don't think that you have another option:)

[Edited at 2017-05-01 17:34 GMT]


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DJHartmann  Identity Verified
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So sorry for your situation May 1

As mentioned above you can only treat this as a lesson for the future.

After facing a similar situation I applied a set rule for all Indian agencies: I'll be more than happy to work with them if payment is made in advance.

With this rule being applied I can now confidently say that I haven't been scammed by Indian agencies since! (None of them have accepted the terms!) I'm also happy with this, and feel assured that if they are ever serious and need the work completed by a seasoned professional, they will agree to the rule.

I did have a close call however, with the Indian PM using an English pseudonym. While the payment was 4 months late, it did end up coming through. So continue to check the Blueboard for all new clients, not just Indian-sounding ones!

Once again sorry about the $900


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Paulinho Fonseca  Identity Verified
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Susan Welsh wrote:

Such questions have been discussed thousands of times.
http://www.proz.com/?sp=forum&action=SearchForum&advanced=y


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Paulinho Fonseca  Identity Verified
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That is a good suggestion to get started. :) May 2

Yolanda Broad wrote:

Make an entry in the Blue Board. Here's a link to get you started: http://www.proz.com/blueboard/?&sp_mode=entry


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Paulinho Fonseca  Identity Verified
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This is an assertive attitude: May 2

"For the future, bear in mind the following:
- react as soon as your client is late with payment;
- increase the severity of your formal demands (polite reminder, reminder with deadline, formal demand with tight deadline and indication of consequences of non-payment);"


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Michael Newton  Identity Verified
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Payment issue May 3

Your first mistake was not being selective about the agency/country you deal with. Your due diligence should filter out agencies in dodgy locations. Another caveat: do not do business with an agency which lists a post office box rather than a proper street address for contact.

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Merab Dekano  Identity Verified
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Deal with it locally May 3

Mohamad Salah wrote:

Hi colleagues,

I have an unpaid invoice of more than 900 USD for more than 1 year with a client in India. I sent them dozens of mails and called them too much times and every time they say we will pay and promise a date for payment, but this payment never happened. I have all mails archived, can anybody give me an idea what are the actions I should take in order to get my money?

Thanks for your help in advance.


One year is a lot, it is unlikely that they pay you if you continue dealing with them the way you have been dealing with them until now. Get a local lawyer. In India it shouldn't be expensive. Let that local lawyer scare them with a letter. If no reaction, sue them in their country. Teach them a lesson.

For future projects, mind the country. I'm sure they either don't have Blue Board entry or have a very poor one. I don't think they just messed up with you; they must be doing it all the time. Check on them before giving them any credit.


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mikael sihite
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Mohamad Salah wrote:

Hi colleagues,

I have an unpaid invoice of more than 900 USD for more than 1 year with a client in India. I sent them dozens of mails and called them too much times and every time they say we will pay and promise a date for payment, but this payment never happened. I have all mails archived, can anybody give me an idea what are the actions I should take in order to get my money?

Thanks for your help in advance.


I am on project for Indian company now. since I read your post, I start to worry about it. if you could just mention the name of the company or agency, maybe other freelancer would be more careful.
and I hope they send your payment.


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