Lowest rate in UK?
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Paul Stevens  Identity Verified
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Feb 5, 2003

The following job was posted on the ProZ.com site last night:



QUOTE

Education





Spanish>English







Education report 30 000 words



Pricing:



0.02 EUR per word

UNQUOTE



In the e.mail that I (and hence, presumably, everyone) received, the poster is also looking for \"professional credentials\".



For some territories, I do not doubt that this could be a reasonable rate, but for the UK, I have never seen anything quite as low as this, and, depending on how complicated this text is, it could end up being a job done at below the minimum wage for the UK.



I\'m sure that the poster will find somebody to do this job, and it could well be done by a good professional translator, but I very much hope that the agency involved gets what it deserves - a very poor translation. It is companies like this that are having a detrimental effect on rates.


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Graciela Carlyle  Identity Verified
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sometimes "nothing" is better than something Feb 5, 2003

I completely agree with you.

When I saw the posting this morning I first thought that they had made a mistake, but then, thinking a bit more, I realised that there wasn\'t any mistake or they would have corrected the posting!!

I\'m sure someone will unfortunately do it, but I find offering such low rates really offensive.

There should be a system in which companies could not offer less than a certain minimum when posting bids (probably taken from the average of the minimum rates of the translators registered for a given country). Similar to the one that doesn\'t allow us translators entering a lower price than our set up minimum when bidding.

Grace.


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Parrot  Identity Verified
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Paul Feb 5, 2003

I have posted an inquiry on this for members of the ITI, to which professional association the job poster belongs. You may want to follow developments.



Cecilia

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José Luis Villanueva-Senchuk  Identity Verified
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Gracias Feb 5, 2003

Cecilia,



Many thanks for staying on top of this issue.



JL


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Paul Stevens  Identity Verified
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ITB not ITI Feb 5, 2003

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On 2003-02-05 14:05, Parrot wrote:

I have posted an inquiry on this for members of the ITI, to which professional association the job poster belongs. You may want to follow developments.



Cecilia

Moderator Sp>En





Cecilia,



Thanks for your comment and interest, but this posting was from the International Translation Bureau and not the Institute of Translating and Interpreting.



In any case, this posting is now deleted, either because the agency found someone to do it, or a moderator has deleted it.



Thanks again (prepared at 2.40 pm - my postings seem to be taking a long time to reach the forums!)

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Telesforo Fernandez
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Thanks for your inquiry Feb 5, 2003

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On 2003-02-05 14:05, Parrot wrote:

I have posted an inquiry on this for members of the ITI, to which professional association the job poster belongs. You may want to follow developments.



Cecilia

Moderator Sp>En





I think yours is a major step towards creating larger awareness about such low rate job postings. Thank you so much for being concerned aboutit - more so becuase you are the moderator of this forum. I hope one day Proz will be free from such job postings.

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Parrot  Identity Verified
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Paul (II) Feb 5, 2003

One of our moderators deleted the posting.



I am very well aware of the agency/person who made the posting, but I am also aware that the person/entity is entered as an \"Associate Member\" of the ITI.



The ITI has a membership assessment committee, and \"Associate Members\" are those whose full membership is under evaluation.



For that matter, ProZ.com didn\'t get the worst end; the same job was advertised in another list at 0.01, which brought in a fair share of comments.



We are following this closely.





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Paul Stevens  Identity Verified
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Thanks for your clarification Feb 5, 2003

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On 2003-02-05 15:54, Parrot wrote:

One of our moderators deleted the posting.



I am very well aware of the agency/person who made the posting, but I am also aware that the person/entity is entered as an \"Associate Member\" of the ITI.



The ITI has a membership assessment committee, and \"Associate Members\" are those whose full membership is under evaluation.



For that matter, ProZ.com didn\'t get the worst end; the same job was advertised in another list at 0.01, which brought in a fair share of comments.



We are following this closely.









Thanks for your further note, Cecilia - I hadn\'t realised that the poster is entered as an \"Associate Member\" of the ITI.



I await developments with interest.

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Amy Williams  Identity Verified
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AITIs and MITIs Feb 6, 2003

Hi all,

As an Associate of the Institute myself I thought I\'d clear up the AITI and MITI issue.

Unfortunately you can\'t (this was the case when I applied for associateship) become a Member - which requires an examination - until you are 25 years of age. Until then you can apply to be an Associate.

Full details at the ITI website.



Best,

Amy


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Parrot  Identity Verified
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ITI has taken action Feb 6, 2003

Shall we forgive and forget now?





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