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Words of wisdom to share with my friends.

Enrique





The Invitation



By Oriah Mountain Dreamer (a Native American Elder)



It doesn\'t interest me what you do for a living.

I want to know what you ache for,

and if you dare to dream of meeting your heart\'s longing.



It doesn\'t interest me how old you are.

I want to know if you will risk looking like a fool for love,

for your dreams, for the adventure of being alive.



It doesn\'t interest me what planets are squaring your moon.

I want to know if you have touched the center of your own sorrow,

if you have been opened by life\'s betrayals

or have become shriveled and closed from fear of further pain!



I want to know if you can sit with pain, mine or your own,

without moving to hide it or fade it or fix it.



I want to know if you can be with joy, mine or your own,

if you can dance with wildness and let the ecstasy fill you

to the tips of your fingers and toes without cautioning us to be

careful, be realistic, or to remember the limitations of being human.



It doesn\'t interest me if the story you\'re telling me is true.

I want to know if you can disappoint another to be true to yourself,

if you can bear the accusation of betrayal

and not betray your own soul.



I want to know if you can be faithful and therefore be trustworthy.



I want to know if you can see beauty even when it is not pretty every day,

and if you can source your life from God\'s presence.



I want to know if you can live with failure, yours and mine,

And still stand on the edge of a lake

and shout to the silver of the full moon, \"Yes\"!



It doesn\'t interest me to know where you live or how much money you have.

I want to know if you can get up after the night of grief and despair,

weary and bruised to the bone,

And do what needs to be done for the children.



It doesn\'t interest me who you are, how you came to be here.

I want to know if you will stand in the center of the fire with me

and not shrink back.



It doesn\'t interest me where or what or with whom you have studied.

I want to know what sustains you from the inside when all else falls away.



I want to know if you can be alone with yourself,

and if you truly like the company you keep in the empty moments.



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Thierry LOTTE  Identity Verified
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Nice Apr 23, 2003


I really did like it !



By the way, anybody would be so kind to tell me where I could find Rudyard Kipling\'s poem which title is : \"IF\".



I red many translations, but never had the occasion to read the original one.



Thanks in advanceto all of you.



Friendly,



Thierry


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Monika Coulson  Identity Verified
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Thank you Apr 23, 2003

Thank you so much Enrique. Really wise words.





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I really liked it too, thank you (+ directions to "If".....) Apr 23, 2003

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On 2003-04-23 00:37, evazerka wrote:



I really did like it !



By the way, anybody would be so kind to tell me where I could find Rudyard Kipling\'s poem which title is : \"IF\".



I red many translations, but never had the occasion to read the original one.



Thanks in advanceto all of you.



Friendly,



Thierry





\"If\" can be found at:http://www.poetryloverspage.com/poets/kipling/kipling_ind.html

and everything else of his at:

http://www.poets.org/poets/poets.cfm?prmID=137



Is the elder you quoted contemporary or historical ? Truely magnificent...



Best wishes

Giuli



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IF (Rudyard Kipling) Apr 23, 2003

Per Thierry\'s request:

(This is what I have Thierry)



IF



If you can keep your head when all about you

Are losing theirs and blaming it on you;

If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,

But make allowance for their doubting too;

If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,

Or being lied about, don\'t deal in lies,

Or being hated, don\'t give way to hating,

And yet don\'t look too good, nor talk too wise:



If you can dream -- and not make dreams your master;

If you can think -- and not make thoughts your aim;

If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster

And treat those two imposters just the same;

If you can bear to hear the truth you\'ve spoken

Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,

Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,

And stoop and build \'em up with worn-out tools;



If you can make one heap of all your winnings

And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,

And lose, and start again at your beginnings

And never breathe a word about your loss;

If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew

To serve your turn long after they are gone,

And so hold on when there is nothing in you

Except the Will which says to them: \"Hold on!\"



If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,

Or walk with kings -- nor lose the common touch,

If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,

If all men count with you, but none too much;

If you can fill the unforgiving minute

With sixty seconds\' worth of distance run --

Yours is the Earth and everything that\'s in it,

And -- which is more -- you\'ll be a Man, my son!





[ This Message was edited by: monika on 2003-04-23 01:11]


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It´s a girl Apr 23, 2003

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On 2003-04-23 01:04, giulik wrote:

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Is the elder you quoted contemporary or historical ? Truely magnificent...







In fact, Oriel Mountain Dreamer is a contemporary attractive woman who lives in Toronto. You can check her page at http://www.oriahmountaindreamer.com/home.html

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:)) Apr 23, 2003

Thank you, Quique. I really enjoyed your posting.

Vale



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Monika Coulson  Identity Verified
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Thanks again Apr 23, 2003

Thank you again Enrique, not only for the poem, but also for the link you provided. Very interesting...

Monika





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Suzanne Bernard
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Words to live by... Apr 23, 2003

Thank you so much for posting this poem. It puts things into perspective - for many of us, I\'m sure.



We should always remember that what is truly important is found inside one\'s heart.



Thanks again,



Suzanne


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José Luis Villanueva-Senchuk  Identity Verified
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If... Apr 24, 2003

Many thanks for sharing!



I inspired me to post something



Have to go back to work...



JL


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