Off topic: Social engineering - an email attempting to steal your login information
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Rahi Moosavi  Identity Verified
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May 27, 2009

I received this email and thought of sharing it here just for laughs, we've all heard of social engineering and how people try to steal your login information but come on, what kind of person would fall for something like this??!!!



Dear Webmail User,

This message was sent automatically by a program on Webmail which
periodically checks the size of inboxes, where new messages are
received.The program is run weekly to ensure no one's inbox grows
too large. Ifyour inbox becomes too large, you will be unable to
receive new email.Just before this message was sent, you had 18
Megabytes (MB) or more of messages stored in your inbox on your
Webmail. To help us re-set your SPACE on our database prior to
maintain your INBOX, you must reply to
this e-mail and enter your

Current User name ( )

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[Subject edited by staff or moderator 2009-05-28 03:03 GMT]


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Tomás Cano Binder, BA, CT  Identity Verified
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Is it an adequate topic title? May 27, 2009

Indeed it is stupid, but some people might fall in it...

I wonder: would it be possible to change the topic title to include a reference to scam, so that people read it and are informed?

Thanks for posting this!


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Rahi Moosavi  Identity Verified
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scams May 27, 2009

I thought it was self explanatory because social engineering is quite a well known term, see this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_engineering_(security)

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Nicole Schnell  Identity Verified
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Thanks, lai an, but... May 28, 2009

that's a different story. Social engineering means manipulating people into performing actions or divulging confidential information by trickery or deception. Such as sending emails to subscribers of a particular website / service, requesting information. The email / website, of course, is a fake. More? Some company is calling you on the phone, asking you to participate in whatever survey. You willingly will provide private information because they said that it's for a good cause. Who doesn't want to feed the hungry or rescue abused animals. Now it's getting interesting: Someone is calling you at your desk. The person tells you, that he / she is working for / is close to a colleague of yours. Tells you, that this particular person has asked a particular favor / a service. Unfortunately, to do so, some further information is required. Birthday, name of the bank, whatever. You fall for it, because the person already knows so much about your colleague - it just has to be a close friend, right?

lai an wrote:

A book: Linguistic Engineering: Language and Politics in Mao’s China:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Linguistic-Engineering-Language-Politics-China/dp/0824825365

[Edited at 2009-05-27 23:27 GMT]


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Samuel Murray  Identity Verified
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What is social engineering May 28, 2009

Rahi Moosavi wrote:
I thought it was self explanatory because social engineering is quite a well known term, see this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_engineering_(security)


I'm familiar with the term social engineering, but this is the first time I see it used in the context of e-mail scamming. I had always thought it was a hacking term, not a scamming term.

The way I have encountered the term before suggested to me that (a) it is interactive, (b) the purpose is often to gain information from someone but not to the immediate detriment of that person, and (c) the person who provides the information is usually someone with some degree of authority.

So e-mail would not work because you can't skillfully react to someone's reaction when they read an e-mail, and in this case the scam is random -- he did not choose you because you will help him get access to some larger system.

However, I now see that the Wikipedia article regards phishing as a type of social engineering. I find this weird, but who can disagree with Wikipedia?


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Kathryn Sanderson  Identity Verified
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Of Wikipedia and scams May 28, 2009

Samuel Murray wrote:



However, I now see that the Wikipedia article regards phishing as a type of social engineering. I find this weird, but who can disagree with Wikipedia?


Anyone can disagree with Wikipedia and submit corrections, which may be published. Isn't that the whole point of Wikipedia? It's not correct about everything. :S


And a course correction for having veered off topic....

It makes me angry that there are so many spammers and scammers out there. And enough (too many) people must be falling for them, otherwise the scammers would quit. Of course, scammers are very clever and keep coming up with new scams. All we can do is be vigilant and warn one another about new tricks.

Thanks to Rahi and everyone else who takes the time to alert us.


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Nicole Schnell  Identity Verified
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So true. May 28, 2009

Kathryn Sanderson wrote:

It makes me angry that there are so many spammers and scammers out there. And enough (too many) people must be falling for them, otherwise the scammers would quit. Of course, scammers are very clever and keep coming up with new scams. All we can do is be vigilant and warn one another about new tricks.

Thanks to Rahi and everyone else who takes the time to alert us.




Thanks, Rahi!


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