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Magdalena Szewciów  Identity Verified
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Apr 10, 2010

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6390NQ20100410

We are all shell-shocked.


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xxxAguas de Mar
My condolences Apr 10, 2010

To the Polish people on this tragedy. There was not only the president, but "Poland's army chief, central bank governor, MPs and leading historians were among more than 80 passengers." Very sad, indeed.

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Samuel Murray  Identity Verified
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Two comments (also off-topic) Apr 10, 2010

Magdalena Szewciów wrote:
We are all shell-shocked.


1. You are not shell-shocked. You are simply shocked.

Shell-shock: A mental disorder caused by stress of active warfare.

2. You have my sympathies. There are countries where sudden death of the president would be considered a blessing, but it is my understanding that the Polish leader was much loved, right?


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Evonymus (Ewa Kazmierczak)  Identity Verified
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@Samuel Apr 10, 2010

Samuel Murray wrote:

2. There are countries where sudden death of the president would be considered a blessing


I guess you are talking about countries with a military dictatorship.
And it seems to me that you are not aware that Poland is not one of them.

Samuel Murray wrote:

2. There are countries where sudden death of the president would be considered a blessing, but it is my understanding that the Polish leader was much loved, right?


It doesn’t matter now if we loved our President or not. He and his wife died in a tragic catastrophe, together with other ca. 90 persons.
It’s a human tragedy. Don’t you think so?
regards, Ewa


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Michał Herman
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Interpreter Apr 10, 2010

Also, our fellow interpreter, Aleksander Fedorowicz, is one of the casualties of the plane-crash...

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ATIL KAYHAN  Identity Verified
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Condolences Apr 10, 2010

to all of Poland.

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Monika Rozwarzewska  Identity Verified
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we have democracy, so... Apr 10, 2010

Samuel Murray wrote:
There are countries where sudden death of the president would be considered a blessing, but it is my understanding that the Polish leader was much loved, right?


Lech Kaczyński was democratically elected.


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~Ania~  Identity Verified
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More details here: Apr 10, 2010

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1264964/BREAKING-NEWS-Plane-carrying-Polish-president-crashes-Russia.html

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Evonymus (Ewa Kazmierczak)  Identity Verified
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@ Samuel again Apr 10, 2010

Samuel Murray wrote:

Shell-shock: A mental disorder caused by stress of active warfare.


Not that it matters in this situation, but since you mentioned it:
“shell-shocked (adjective) - shocked, confused or anxious because of a difficult situation, and unable to think or act normally”
according to Oxford Advanced Learner’s Dictionary


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Tomás Cano Binder, BA, CT  Identity Verified
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My condolencies to all of Poland Apr 10, 2010

It is indeed a tragedy. May they all rest in peace! Hugs to all the Polish people.

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Piotr Wargan  Identity Verified
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Please say a prayer... Apr 10, 2010

for those who died on the plane.

They were going to pay tribute to victims of a mass murder, the murder of thousands of Polish officers (prisoners of war) in spring 1940.

Poland's history has been complicated, and when you read that one of the victims of the tragedy of 10 April 2010 was the last President of the Government of the Republic of Poland in Exile you may want to know more.

Please spare a moment and look here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_government-in-exile#Presidents

you may learn something new about Poland's complicated history, and if you read about our history after 1939 you should understand why we say that Poland got its real independence in 1989.

Very sad we are now indeed.....
Once more part of Poland's elite died in the same place - this sends shivers down my spine.

PW


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Henk Peelen  Identity Verified
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Jeszcze Polska nie zgineła; my sympathies to all who mourn Apr 10, 2010

Trying to learn the national hymns of all nations I've been cycling and of all allied nations whose soldiers in WWII fought on the soil of my native country, The Netherlands, Polish people were helpfull and I found mister Lech Kaczyński teaching the Mazurek Dąbrowskiego:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7TrgRUXpmQ
Now I hope it's not his brother (you never know with these twin brothers).

Lech, I need 50 years or more practicing before I can sing it like you do, but once I'll join you up there and we'll sing it together! In the meantime, you praise the Lord up there like you did here below, I'm sure!

Rest in peace, all who died!


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Is the discussion about the ducks useful?
Incumbent politicians hardly are loved. We want politicians to give us hope, so we revere them when they predict better times. They get so used to honeycooling that they do the same when reigning "Re-elect me and in my next term I'll solve the current problems". "It's the economy, stupid" said silly Billy and gave people false hope by raising sound mortgage restrictions to make "everybody rich". Half of the world walked in his trap so his successor got elected with 80% or so.

[Bijgewerkt op 2010-04-10 19:13 GMT]


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Monika Coulson  Identity Verified
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My condolences Apr 10, 2010

for this human tragedy...


Sincerely,

Monika


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apk12  Identity Verified
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@Samuel Apr 10, 2010

... There are countries where sudden death of the president would be considered a blessing, but it is my understanding that the Polish leader was much loved, right?


Not really and not by everybody. Others knew him as "The new potato of Poland" (a satiric joke, the title of an article published in 2006 in the newspaper taz, which caused some shocked polish not-taz-readers to be even more shocked)

But yes, if following the forum, he seems to have been quite much loved, almost personally somehow. I'm surprised a bit, but that's how it looks like. Large family or a very fomal codex.


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Evonymus (Ewa Kazmierczak)  Identity Verified
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@apk12 Apr 10, 2010

@apk12,
I’m shocked with your insensitive comment, really It seems you don’t understand a thing
Ewa


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