Off topic: It is a Princess / Het is een prinsesje !
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lien
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Dec 8, 2003

Yesterday is born a princess of Orange-Nassau, the future Queen of the Netherlands.

Her father is Wilhelm Alexander, the futur King and her moeder is Maxima.

It is Willem-Alexander, I don't know why I wrote it Wilhelm.

[Edited at 2003-12-09 17:10]


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Henk Peelen  Identity Verified
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Congratulations for your doughter, Willem-Alexander & Máxima Dec 8, 2003

Want some pictures? Look at:
http://www.refdag.nl/website/fotoserie.php?id=108&fotoid=8
or
http://www.koninklijkhuis.nl/gebeurtenissen/special.html?geboorte1.html

Want to congratulate them? Visit:
http://www.koninklijkhuis.nl/gebeurtenissen/special.html?geboorte1.html

and hit the button "reactie toevoegen"

pictures of the 12 days old Catharina-Amalia Beatrix et cetera

http://krant.telegraaf.nl/krant/wereldfotos/fotos/22.jpg?time=1071843601
http://krant.telegraaf.nl/krant/wereldfotos/fotos/23.jpg?time=1071843601
http://krant.telegraaf.nl/krant/wereldfotos/fotos/24.jpg?time=1071843601
http://krant.telegraaf.nl/krant/wereldfotos/fotos/25.jpg?time=1071843601


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NancyLynn
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Congratulations, Holland ! Dec 9, 2003

This baby is absolutely beautiful ! I feel it to the bottoms of my feet when I think of the responsibility she will have as a grown woman... But for now, she is a baby who needs lots of cuddling, which, irristable as she is, she is sure to receive.
Have they found her a name yet ? I looked at the French version of the site but haven't found the story yet.
I've visited Holland twice and loved it, and plan to return. Meanwhile, as I am near Ottawa, I drive there every spring to enjoy the bounty given us by the Dutch royal family. In fact, I chose our anniversary to be May 17 for that very reason, so I can take a day off and admire the seas of colour that adorn our nation's capital.
Enjoy the baby ! The press must be rejoicing about this sweetheart - she is sure to sell lots of magazines !!
Félicitations !
N.


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Juan Jacob  Identity Verified
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Thanks. Dec 9, 2003

My father is from Belgium, my mother from Spain.
So, I have TWO kings, and TWO queens.
Not bad!
But frankly, I don't care... neither for Dutch's new princess, or prince.
More important "off topic" matters in ProZ.
Juan.


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xxxblomguib  Identity Verified
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Way to go, Juan! Dec 9, 2003

Completely agree with you...
useless to spend time here on someone (or her child), whose "introduction" into dutch society was an absolute insult to all "real foreigners" who have to try to cope with the society and the language, under far less privileged circumstances...had we been in the M-ages, this subject would make sence...now, it doesn´t..


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Hans G. Liepert  Identity Verified
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Nou, en? Dec 9, 2003

Juan Jacob wrote:

More important "off topic" matters in ProZ.
Juan.


Absolutely, stupid idea to think of superiority by DNA - maybe the British royalties are an exception



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Henk Peelen  Identity Verified
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Catharina-Amalia Beatrix Carmen Victoria Dec 9, 2003

or just Amalia
some references (unfortunately in Dutch)
http://www2.telegraaf.nl/nieuwslink/gelukvanoranje/article6424531.ece

http://www2.telegraaf.nl/nieuwslink/gelukvanoranje/article6428241.ece

Of course, some off topics are more important than other ones. As to the DNA of the child: it seems to me a typical "kaaskop"; not much Spanish (Argentine) blood as far as I can see. But who am I?


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Tina Vonhof  Identity Verified
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Bedankt! Dec 9, 2003

Henk Peelen wrote:

or just Amalia
some references (unfortunately in Dutch)
http://www2.telegraaf.nl/nieuwslink/gelukvanoranje/article6424531.ece

http://www2.telegraaf.nl/nieuwslink/gelukvanoranje/article6428241.ece

Of course, some off topics are more important than other ones. As to the DNA of the child: it seems to me a typical "kaaskop"; not much Spanish (Argentine) blood as far as I can see. But who am I?


Bedankt voor de http's Henk. Ik vond het erg leuk. Laat de zuurpruimen maar praten.


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Henk Peelen  Identity Verified
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I should have a hard time ... Dec 9, 2003

if I had to choose between the "privileges" of being a part of the Royal Familiy (big money and prestige, but living in the knowledge that every step you take is monitored by people who should guffaw if you should make a mistake), or the privilege of being a moderate, inconspicuous citizen.


Stefan Blommaert wrote:

Completely agree with you...
useless to spend time here on someone (or her child), whose "introduction" into dutch society was an absolute insult to all "real foreigners" who have to try to cope with the society and the language, under far less privileged circumstances...had we been in the M-ages, this subject would make sence...now, it doesn´t..



I guess the "real foreigners" choosed voluntary and mature to move to a country where they can live free, but for the first couple of years as a "stranger".
If not so, I guess it's not the fault of the Royal Family or the monarchists.

Most foreigners like the Royal Family, however. Maybe they just choosed to live in a country with a beautifull cultural exponent like a monarchy.

Maybe some Dutchies (Frisians, Flemish? I shouldn't know) don't like the current government. Since 1945, due to allied action a lot of countries have been made (or are currently being made) realtively "open" and liberal, where everybody is free to cooperate with the current government (unless restricted by own family, local interpretations et cetera), and free to imigrate to or megrate from such countries. Among them are (in chronological order) most West European, African, South Asian, East European and North Asian countries, including UK, Spain, Israël, Bosnia-Hercegovina, South-Africa, Kuwait and Iraq.

Too much repudation of a current government, too few actions to adapt to the current society, too little (willingness to gain) knowledge of historical backgrounds / rights of some citizens, or actions which endanger the current government or lives of others could lead to cultural depreviation, social withdrawal, denial of basic rights, being treated as second-class citizens or even worser.

So, cultural information might be very usefull.
Nothing medieval about open and liberal constitutional monarchies.
[Edited at 2003-12-10 11:20]

[Edited at 2003-12-10 11:24]


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Jason Roberts  Identity Verified
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Excellent Dec 9, 2003

Thanks for the link Henk.

Now I share a b-day with a member of the Dutch royal family and Noam Chomsky!

And Henk is right, most foreigners in the Netherlands have a very high regard for the Dutch Royal Family.

-JR


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louisajay
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live and let live Dec 10, 2003

does it really matter if there are more important matters on Proz? there is room for all of them. If you don't care about a topic don't read it and don't post on it. Simple.

I for one am very interested to see how other cultures regard their royal families as well as mine (British) - and this is a good place to learn about such little but interesting aspects of all our different cultures.


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