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Thread poster: Ty Kendall

Ty Kendall  Identity Verified
United Kingdom
Local time: 14:35
Hebrew to English
May 25, 2012

Is everyone ready for the dodgy songs, the geo-political voting, the overall corruption etc???

Has anyone already noticed any good translation anecdotes in relation to Eurovision?

I read this just this morning:

"Pastora Soler, Spain's entry for the Eurovision Song Contest, has been asked not to win the competition because of the cost of putting the event on next year.
The singer was also sent the tongue-in-cheek message from Spanish broadcaster TVE saying 'Please, don't win!'.
“I think it is not the moment, neither for Spain nor for Spanish public, to win Eurovision,” she said.
“If we won, I think it would be impossible to stage the next edition because it costs so much money.”"
http://uk.tv.yahoo.com/-spanish-eurovision-entry-pastora-soler-‘told-not-to-win’-–-daily-tv-round-up.html

....with the current economic climate it seems winning Eurovision is a bit an inverse game of pass-the-parcel. I wonder if this will affect the voting? i.e. Let's all vote for XX - they can afford to host it next year.

What do you think of your country's entry?


 

writeaway  Identity Verified
French to English
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does not apply May 25, 2012

Belgium isn't even in the final. And I thought it was only a problem with football....


[Edited at 2012-05-25 14:14 GMT]


 

Spencer Allman
United Kingdom
Local time: 14:35
Finnish to English
I haven't heard it May 25, 2012

But I am really looking forward to the contest

(why can't I get a wink smilie?)


 

Thomas Pfann  Identity Verified
United Kingdom
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Engelbert for UK and Germany May 25, 2012

Interestingly, Metro, the free UK tabloid, quotes Engelbert Humperdinck today as having said "I'm backing Germany" (Link to Metro article).

Which, of course, is either a mistranslation or a wilful misinterpretation of what he said in an interview with the German tabloid Bild earlier this week. His mother was German and he was hugely popular in Germany (and across Europe, of course) at the height of his career (which I believe was just after the Napoleonic wars). So all he said was that Germany was still close to his heart and that he was also "singing for Germany". The kind of stuff you'd say on a PR tour abroad. Basically, he was just fishing for the German vote.

I actually do like his song, although I think it is far too slow and quiet for Eurovision. It feels more like the intro to a great song which never really gets going. Anyway, I still expect him to get a decent result for the UK - probably better than anyone else in recent decades.


 

Ty Kendall  Identity Verified
United Kingdom
Local time: 14:35
Hebrew to English
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I must admit.... May 25, 2012

Even though we haven't covered ourselves in glory in recent years with our entries.....

I absolutely loathe the UK entry this year. I don't know if it's because it's so slow and dull or because I don't really rate the singer.

He didn't do much to endear himself to me either when earlier in the week in a Panorama investigation, he basically said Azerbaijan's human rights record was nothing to do with him...he was only a singer. Funny how 'celebrities' wade into international politics when it suits them (**Angelina Jolie, George Clooney...I mean YOU!**) and when it doesn't they dismiss it as beyond their sphere of influence.

Politics aside, I quite like Greece's entry. (Sorry Israel - yours is also dire!).icon_smile.gificon_smile.gif


 

Sarah Puchner  Identity Verified
Local time: 08:35
French to English
Watching live on Saturday May 25, 2012

Ty Kendall wrote:

I absolutely loathe the UK entry this year. I don't know if it's because it's so slow and dull or because I don't really rate the singer.



Yep, slow and dull.

I haven't listened to any of the others yet, I am hosting a get-together tomorrow and we will be watching live over the Internet from Wisconsin. If anyone is interested, the list of finalists is here, http://www.eurovision.tv/page/baku-2012#Grand Final



and you can even download Engelbert posters (if you really must...) here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0070hvg/features/party

I wish I could say "go UK!" but I just can't.

Sarah


 

Nadezhda & Vatslav Yehurnovy  Identity Verified
Ukraine
Local time: 16:35
English to Russian
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Well, we hope for the best May 25, 2012

Even more for Russian grandmas than for our Gaitanaicon_smile.gif

Hope everyone could do that when their ageicon_smile.gif


 

Maja Źróbecka, MITI  Identity Verified
Poland
Local time: 15:35
English to Polish
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Poland May 26, 2012

Thank God Poland gave up on this ridiculous contest this year. I stopped watching it a long time ago, as it was just getting more and more embarrassing. And, Ty, your comments are spot on. I don't understand why money is being wasted on something of this quality. Just my opinion.

Enjoy to those who will be watching.

Maja


 

Oksana Weiss  Identity Verified
Germany
Local time: 15:35
Member (2011)
English to Russian
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No, not again May 26, 2012


Even more for Russian grandmas than for our Gaitanaicon_smile.gif

You don't want Kyiv to host Eurovision, eh? Especially seeing all these preparations for Euro-2012 highlighted in the Ukrainian threads?;) Yes, let it be Moscow next time, surely they can afford it!


 

Ty Kendall  Identity Verified
United Kingdom
Local time: 14:35
Hebrew to English
TOPIC STARTER
Sabotage May 26, 2012

Part of me can't help but think the choice of Engelbert Whatshisname is a deliberate attempt at sabotage so that we definitely don't host the show next year...crafty!icon_smile.gif

 

Veronica Lupascu  Identity Verified
Netherlands
Local time: 15:35
Dutch to Romanian
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Exactly May 26, 2012

Maja Zrobecka wrote:

I don't understand why money is being wasted on something of this quality.



But Azerbaijan is clearly making a good touristic marketing this year. Usually between songs they show images from the country that is going to sing next, but they only show images from Azerbaijan.

But really time and money wasting.


 

Tina Colquhoun  Identity Verified
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Danish to English
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Exactly May 26, 2012

Ty Kendall wrote:

Part of me can't help but think the choice of Engelbert Whatshisname is a deliberate attempt at sabotage so that we definitely don't host the show next year...crafty!icon_smile.gif


Let all those 'new' participants who take it all so seriously host it for the next few decades. It's all just excruciating...


 

George Hopkins
Local time: 15:35
Swedish to English
What do I think? May 26, 2012

All the contributions will have a short life, thank god, and then perhaps more people will understand that music worth listening to is mostly fairly old.
If music survives a few years, many years or even hundreds of years, it is a guarantee of value.

Eurovision is rather like the present financial crisis. A jumble of codswallop and nothingness in colourful wrappings.

[Edited at 2012-05-26 10:57 GMT]


 

Rachel Fell  Identity Verified
United Kingdom
Local time: 14:35
French to English
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Ireland May 26, 2012

Ty Kendall wrote:

Part of me can't help but think the choice of Engelbert Whatshisname is a deliberate attempt at sabotage so that we definitely don't host the show next year...crafty!icon_smile.gif

That's what they're saying about the Irish entryicon_wink.gif
And BTW I quite like Englebert's song - they don't have to be fast.

[Edited at 2012-05-26 12:45 GMT]


 

Jack Doughty  Identity Verified
United Kingdom
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Waltz Time May 26, 2012

I had not heard Engelbert Humperdinck singing the UK entry, but I have just listened to it. I really like it. I agree it probably won't score well because it is not loud and frantic enough. But then my preference is for songs of the 1930s rather than anything post World War II (with a few exceptions).
I was pleased to notice that it is in three-four time. How long is it since a waltz was Top of the Pops or got anywhere in the Eurovision Song competition? I wrote a poem about the demise of the waltz some years ago.

WALTZ TIME 1980

(To the tune of “My Way”, but sung in three-four time)

Although
I do not know
An awful lot
Of music theory,
The way
This song’s arranged
Just makes me feel
So sad and dreary.
This score
Is in four-four,
But I am sure
That that’s a false time,
So I tell
Them, What the hell!
And play it waltz time.

It’s not
So long ago,
They’d dance so close
You couldn’t part ‘em,
But now
They seem to think
That that is in-
Fra dignitatem.
And yet,
Do not forget,
If it’s a fault,
It’s just a small crime,
So play
Your own sweet way,
And make it waltz time.

To waltz,
You take a girl
Right in your arms,
And send her spinning.
She may
Still get away,
But it improves
Your chance of winning.
To dance
Six feet apart
Is just the dumb-
Est thing of all time,
So why
Not simply try
To play it waltz time?

Yes, there are times,
It’s surely true
For which a waltz
Simply will not do,
But nonetheless,
Without a doubt,
There is no need
To blot it out.
You still can win,
So don’t give in,
But play it waltz time!


 
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