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Poll: True or false: the Industrial revolution has come to translation
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Henry Hinds  Identity Verified
United States
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English to Spanish
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Industrial Revolution Sep 21, 2010

Just exactly what is meant by "The Industrial Revolution has come to translation?" It is not at all clear.

 

Susanna Martoni  Identity Verified
Italy
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Spanish to Italian
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Well, it is not so immediate Sep 21, 2010

Before translation, and following the Industrial Revolution, there are so many things to mention.
I'd leave translation at the end of the list.
That's why I chose No.


 

Stephanie Ezrol  Identity Verified
United States
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The industrial revolution was, and still is, based on human creativity Sep 21, 2010

Machine assisted translation, and many of the other computer devices which help the translator and help the individual or firm in need of translation hopefully increase the productivity of the translator and the quality of the finished product. So, I voted yes. But anyone who thinks that the Industrial revolution has replaced the role of the skilled machinist, or machine designer, or machine operator is in a fantasy not in the real world.

As long as we have a growing world with many languages, all of which depend on metaphor and irony to communicate ideas, we will need human translators who can understand and communicate in a way which machines will never be able to. If we don't innovate, we wither and die. But if someone thinks that machines will replace human beings, I suggest that they put down their fancy cell phone and walk around a bit.


 

Nesrin  Identity Verified
United Kingdom
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Say what? Sep 21, 2010

The Industrial Revolution? Wasn't that "a period from the 18th to the 19th century where major changes in agriculture, manufacturing, mining, transport and technology had a profound effect on the socioeconomic and cultural conditions starting in the United Kingdom, then subsequently spreading throughout Europe, North America, and eventually the world" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_Revolution ?

Shouldn't that be "technological revolution", if anything?
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Besides, definitions aside, I agree with Henry that the question isn't at all clear, which is why I skipped this poll. Surely it can't be disputed that technology "has come to" translation, so why would anyone vote "false"? But it's the impact and profoundness of that "coming" that can be disputed and discussed.

[Edited at 2010-09-21 21:11 GMT]


 

Kiwiland Bear  Identity Verified
New Zealand
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Russian to English
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Digging for info Sep 21, 2010

Voted yes. Mainly because of the tools available on the net to dig for info needed for good translation. No way I would be able to find the needed references and definitions if I was limited to paper-based sources only. Also, fast and easy way to ask for peer comments and pointers including from experts in some exotic fields which would otherwise be hard to come by.

 

Anett Lindner
Germany
English to German
between the lines ... Sep 21, 2010

To whom it may concern,

Will our answers to this question be used to evaluate the effect of a potential claim for marketing some new crowdsourcing tool? ... if so, that says it all ...

Regards

Anett


 

Parrot  Identity Verified
Spain
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In this day and age Sep 21, 2010

when we're talking about post-modernism?

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Isn't that about a hundred fifty years too late?


 

Yaotl Altan  Identity Verified
Mexico
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The new Industrial revolution. Sep 21, 2010

If you refer to Trados, yes. (Translation) manpower will have to adapt again to the market.

 

Darío  Identity Verified
Spain
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English to Spanish
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Beg your pardon? Sep 21, 2010

This polls thing is getting more and more funny each day...

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Lynda Bogdan  Identity Verified
Canada
Local time: 08:55
English
My vote - yes Sep 21, 2010

More reliance on technology, less on the human factor.

 

RichardDeegan
Local time: 09:55
Spanish to English
News? Sep 22, 2010

The phrase "the Industrial revolution has come to translation" is present perfect, as if it were "hot news".
I think the industrial revolution, at least in its classical terms of specialization, division of tasks, etc. came to translation long before I was born.


 

matt robinson  Identity Verified
Spain
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Member (2010)
Spanish to English
Sectors Sep 22, 2010

There is a curious tendency to regard one's own field/sector as somehow isolated from the world; encapsulated in a bubble of self-examination and self-importance.
The Industrial Revolution had an impact on translation from the outset, and its effects continue to this day, as in other areas of society.
The use of present perfect with the verb come implies another understanding of the situation, and thus I had to vote no.

[Edited at 2010-09-22 07:02 GMT]


 

Interlangue (X)
Angola
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English to French
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Other/NA Sep 22, 2010

I miss the "other/N.A./I do not understand/meaning what?/no opinion" option, and skipped the poll.

 

Rita Utt  Identity Verified
France
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English to German
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No Sep 22, 2010

For me industrial revolution means in this context that craftmen become less skilled workers working on more boring jobs in factories.
That is what some people try to do to translation.
But luckily for us, only a (small) part of translations can be done that way.
There are "factory jobs" in translation.
It is up to us to avoid them.


 
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