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Rolf Kern  Identity Verified
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What is "professional training" in our profession as translators?

[Bearbeitet am 2013-04-02 10:53 GMT]


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Michael Harris  Identity Verified
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No Apr 2, 2013

I do not plan, but if something comes along that may be interesting and I have time, then the resources shall be unleashed:-)

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Teresa Borges
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Likewise! Apr 2, 2013

Michael Harris wrote:

I do not plan, but if something comes along that may be interesting and I have time, then the resources shall be unleashed:-)


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Enrico Zoffoli  Identity Verified
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No Apr 2, 2013

In my view, one of the (many) good things about this job is that "formal" training isn't necessary. One becomes a better translator simply by translating.

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Julian Holmes  Identity Verified
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No plans or preparations Apr 2, 2013

Like Michael, Teresa and Enrico

Because, by the nature of our profession, we -- unfortunately -- don't know when the next work is coming in unless we have a promise of work in the form of a PO, which makes it difficult to plan ahead.

I suppose we could "allocate" a certain amount of funds based on historical figures so that we could learn new software skills, go on training seminars in our particular fields, etc. etc.

However, I do think it is an intrinsic part of all of us to continue to move forward and develop as part of our CPD and hone our skills by our own efforts.


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R-i-c-h-a-r-d  Identity Verified
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No Apr 2, 2013

I try to 'prepare' a yearly budget for the education of my kids.

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Mario Chavez  Identity Verified
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A personal opinion a fact does not make Apr 2, 2013

Enrico Zoffoli wrote:

In my view, one of the (many) good things about this job is that "formal" training isn't necessary. One becomes a better translator simply by translating.


Perhaps for you, Enrico, formal training is not in the cards or a desirable pursuit. Your opinion does not invalidate the positive effects of a properly executed formal education for translators.

I speak both as a translator with years of experience and as an educator.


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Mario Chavez  Identity Verified
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The key word is budget Apr 2, 2013

Whether we resort to professional, formal or informal, training to advance our expertise and learning, the point of the question is whether we prepare a yearly budget or not.

I, for one, do not. At best, I assume I'll spend about two thousand dollars a year in the annual ATA conference, including travel and lodging, with exclusion of the income I won't be getting in those days. But it's an investment.

That said, ATA conferences are just one of many opportunities available for the translator in search of professional development. And not all of those opportunities touch on translation or interpreting per se.


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Triston Goodwin  Identity Verified
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Yes Apr 2, 2013

I spend about $4,000 a year on university fees and books, though this year I spent a little more for software.

I am studying business management and law, which, for me, has been a great investment.


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Enrico Zoffoli  Identity Verified
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Please read before (mis)quoting Apr 2, 2013

Mario Chavez wrote:

Enrico Zoffoli wrote:

In my view, one of the (many) good things about this job is that "formal" training isn't necessary. One becomes a better translator simply by translating.


Perhaps for you, Enrico, formal training is not in the cards or a desirable pursuit. Your opinion does not invalidate the positive effects of a properly executed formal education for translators.

I speak both as a translator with years of experience and as an educator.



I said formal education is not a necessary condition for being a good translator. My claim entails no denial of the view that formal training can be of some help. Necessary conditions and auxiliary conditions are two completely different things.


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Steve Kerry  Identity Verified
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In the cards.. Apr 2, 2013

Mario Chavez wrote:


Perhaps for you, Enrico, formal training is not in the cards


Shouldn't that be "on the cards"?

Good luck with the formal training..

Steve K.


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Triston Goodwin  Identity Verified
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In the cards Apr 2, 2013

Steve Kerry wrote:

Mario Chavez wrote:


Perhaps for you, Enrico, formal training is not in the cards


Shouldn't that be "on the cards"?

Good luck with the formal training..

Steve K.


Hi, it is "in the cards"

http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/in%20the%20cards


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Claire Cox
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UK/US difference? Apr 2, 2013

Triston Goodwin wrote:

Steve Kerry wrote:

Mario Chavez wrote:


Perhaps for you, Enrico, formal training is not in the cards


Shouldn't that be "on the cards"?

Good luck with the formal training..

Steve K.


Hi, it is "in the cards"

http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/in%20the%20cards


Born and bred in England, I'd certainly say "on the cards" - perhaps it's yet another of those niggling differences between British English and American English?!

As for training, if something comes up that appeals, be it this year's ITI conference in Gatwick or a training course in one of my chosen software packages that looks beneficial, or a networking event, then I'm happy to spare the funds/time if I can. I don't think you can predict in advance what will be available or whether you'll be able to fit it in with work/family commitments....

[Edited at 2013-04-02 19:46 GMT]


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Mario Chavez  Identity Verified
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Please re-read Apr 2, 2013

Enrico Zoffoli wrote:

Mario Chavez wrote:

Enrico Zoffoli wrote:

In my view, one of the (many) good things about this job is that "formal" training isn't necessary. One becomes a better translator simply by translating.


Perhaps for you, Enrico, formal training is not in the cards or a desirable pursuit. Your opinion does not invalidate the positive effects of a properly executed formal education for translators.

I speak both as a translator with years of experience and as an educator.



I said formal education is not a necessary condition for being a good translator. My claim entails no denial of the view that formal training can be of some help. Necessary conditions and auxiliary conditions are two completely different things.


Enrico, your initial statement was a sweeping generalization. I quote "formal training isn't necessary." What makes you say that? A reasonable reader would infer that a good translator does not need formal training. That's a fallacy. A sweeping generalization cast as opinion and recast as purported fact is flawed. That was my point. I did not misquote you.


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