Poll: Do you store your data in the cloud?
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Michael Harris  Identity Verified
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Nope Jan 11, 2014

and will never want to, not even private stuff.

Too unsafe


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Julian Holmes  Identity Verified
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No Jan 11, 2014

As I wrote in the poll on April 16, 2013

http://www.proz.com/forum/poll_discussion/247318-poll:_do_you_store_your_work_related_data_in_the_cloud.html

Another hit-and-run poll by 'anonymous'


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564354352  Identity Verified
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No, but I use an external backup service Jan 11, 2014

I suffered a severe computer crash in mid-December and realised that I needed a better way of backing up my computer than just backing up files on a memory stick as I had done until then. I have opted for a service with an IT company, whereby all data is backed up to their server every night. Makes me feel much safer. But I wouldn't dream of storing data off my computer 'in the cloud'.

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Muriel Vasconcellos  Identity Verified
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I was interested at first Jan 11, 2014

... but I've heard so many stories lately about information not being secure that I don't want to take a chance.

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neilmac  Identity Verified
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No, not planning to either Jan 11, 2014

My usual response if asked this by a friend would be "do I look daft?"

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Julian Holmes  Identity Verified
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Just one thing... Jan 11, 2014

Any device with an IP address connected to the Internet on a continual or irregular basis is by definition 'in the cloud.'
It would be worthwhile looking at the comments in the poll link I provided above for further discussion.

As for myself, I have a Raid 1 computer with realtime backup on a separate hard disk to 'mirror' what's going on in my regular work drive and OS to boot ('cuse the computer pun ). And, I back up work files to a separate 8TB hard disk, which I picked up for a song, after disconnecting from the Internet to ensure isolation from potential viruses from time to time for added protection.

HTH


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Thayenga  Identity Verified
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Safest data storage Jan 11, 2014

At first I was interested, but then decided that the safest storage for sinsitive data is an external, password protected hard drive without any connection to the Internet at all.

Computers are being hacked, so why not the Cloud?

[Edited at 2014-01-11 13:03 GMT]


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R-i-c-h-a-r-d  Identity Verified
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What does "data" mean? Jan 11, 2014

Are we talking about backups of our translation work or the contents of our entire hard disks?

No, I don't store data in the cloud, but I do have a Dropbox account if I need somewhere to temporarily store data away from my computer.

I copy my translation work to an external hard drive every time I leave my computer, just to be safe.

I guess if I worked on long-term projects that lasted several weeks or months, I would look for a secure on-line backup solution, but usually translation projects only last for x amount of days.

All The Best


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Emin Arı  Identity Verified
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no need! Jan 11, 2014

Backing up entire disk is unnecessary because:

- operating system can be re-installed as most of them in the computer

- programs can be re - installed by downloading from source site or from disc

at any time.

What you should worry about is your direct work: translated documents (source and target), translation memories, photos, contacts etc. These cannot be restored as operating systems and programs.

a simple and efficient way is to send them to yourself via e-mail. this has worked for me so far. no need to pay to cloud providers.


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Mario Chavez  Identity Verified
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Good deal Jan 11, 2014

Julian Holmes wrote:

Any device with an IP address connected to the Internet on a continual or irregular basis is by definition 'in the cloud.'
It would be worthwhile looking at the comments in the poll link I provided above for further discussion.

As for myself, I have a Raid 1 computer with realtime backup on a separate hard disk to 'mirror' what's going on in my regular work drive and OS to boot ('cuse the computer pun ). And, I back up work files to a separate 8TB hard disk, which I picked up for a song, after disconnecting from the Internet to ensure isolation from potential viruses from time to time for added protection.

HTH


Yours is a good example of data backup away from Internet risks.


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Mario Chavez  Identity Verified
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No need II Jan 11, 2014

Emin Arı wrote:

Backing up entire disk is unnecessary because:

- operating system can be re-installed as most of them in the computer

- programs can be re - installed by downloading from source site or from disc

at any time.

What you should worry about is your direct work: translated documents (source and target), translation memories, photos, contacts etc. These cannot be restored as operating systems and programs.

a simple and efficient way is to send them to yourself via e-mail. this has worked for me so far. no need to pay to cloud providers.


Um, your advice is a bit off the mark:

1) Factory-installed OS require hundreds of MBs to update if you reinstall from DVDs or even from a protected partition in your computer. That procedure eats up hours.
2) Software programs require specific settings that the user has carefully defined after installing those programs the first time around, not to mention patches, new releases, bug fixes, etc. This step also eats hours of your time.

One of the best solutions is to image the main hard drive for restoration purposes, which includes the OS completely updated, AV software and all the software packages already set up the way the user likes it.

Of course, if the user wants to waste 24-48 hours of his/her time redoing the installations, he/she is welcome to do it.

I speak from experience and I've done this several times.


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Mario Chavez  Identity Verified
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the cloud is administered by...angels? Jan 11, 2014

Most of you know that the so-called cloud is a fancy schmancy name for the Internet, right?

The “cloud” (which is, basically, any public or private network attached to the larger Internet) has become voguish since software companies started the SaaS (software as a service) move.

Believe it or not, you all have been storing stuff in the “cloud”. Where do you think your IPS or email provider stores your emails? Gmail, Yahoo!, Microsoft, Rocketmail, etc. They all do it.

Storing stuff in Internet-attached servers is a fact of life and a necessary evil. Just be wise and sensible about it...like Julian.


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Oliver Lawrence  Identity Verified
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What if Jan 12, 2014

your house burns down and your offline backups go up in smoke?

What if your computer is stolen?

That's a hole that online backup can get you out of.


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