Poll: Have you ever entrusted a third-party mailing service to send out your CV?
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May 20, 2016

This forum topic is for the discussion of the poll question "Have you ever entrusted a third-party mailing service to send out your CV?".

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Jack Doughty  Identity Verified
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No. May 20, 2016

Why on earth should I? I don't see any point in doing so.

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Julian Holmes  Identity Verified
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No May 20, 2016

Don't remember submitting this poll, but it might be interesting to see the results since I get CVs mass-mailed to me all the time, God knows why - which is really aggravating.

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Julian Holmes  Identity Verified
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Just ought I should add May 20, 2016

Jack Doughty wrote:

Why on earth should I? I don't see any point in doing so.


The CVs I have got have obviously been entrusted to a third party because they are addressed to 'undisclosed recipients'. Grumble grumble...

Oh, and I completely agree with Jack. Why on earthy would they?

Added last line

[Edited at 2016-05-21 10:18 GMT]


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Susana E. Cano Méndez  Identity Verified
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I don't understand May 20, 2016

Julian Holmes wrote:

The CVs I have got have obviously been entrusted to a third party because they are addressed to 'undisclosed recipients'. Grumble grumble...




Maybe they have just (unwisely) sent their CV in BBC?

[Edited at 2016-05-20 08:34 GMT]


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Anton Konashenok  Identity Verified
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No way May 20, 2016

Have never done it, would never do it, would never advise anyone to do it, and would blacklist everyone whose CVs are sent this way.

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Teresa Borges
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No, I haven't ever, but I get them all the time! May 20, 2016

Julian Holmes wrote:

(...) it might be interesting to see the results since I get CVs mass-mailed to me all the time, God knows why - which is really aggravating.


At first, I took the time to read them as I happen to outsource very occasionally (always from and into European Portuguese), but after a while I started sending all these undesired emails straight to the bin. Let’s hope these people read our quick polls!

[Edited at 2016-05-20 08:37 GMT]


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Natalia Makeeva  Identity Verified
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No, but I've just remembered another curious case May 20, 2016

Once I received from another translator my own CV, slightly modified, but with the same structure and mostly the same text, together with a collaboration proposal. I was beside myself with anger!

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Teresa Borges
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I've also received several fake CVs... May 20, 2016

Natalia Makeeva wrote:

Once I received from another translator my own CV, slightly modified, but with the same structure and mostly the same text, together with a collaboration proposal. I was beside myself with anger!


... one of them was slightly modified (different name, telephone and email), but all the rest, even the address, had been taken from that of a translator I know quite well. I warned her and she decided not to make her CV public any more.


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Christine Andersen  Identity Verified
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I send my CV only on request, to people I have checked up on May 20, 2016

My CV is short, antique and probably not worth a lot to most scammers (I hope!)

Apart from that, I have taken it off my profile and only send it to potential clients after I have checked that I would probably be happy to work with them.

Before I started translating, I did apply for scores of jobs, with CV attached, but those were always on paper...


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Alejandro Cavalitto
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These are scams May 20, 2016

Hello,

I just wanted to make a warning that most CVs sent by email are fake and sent by scammers hoping to get assigned a job to: a) outsource it to a real translator, deliver a translation to the client, and keep all payment (without ever paying the translator); or, b) get upfront payment and then never deliver the translation.

Cases like these are reported often through the Support Center and then made public through the Scam alert center. Site members can subscribe to receive notifications of new scam alerts, and everyone can access the repository of past alerts.

If you are aware of a case where a freelancer's CV is being used by scammers with a different set of contact details, you can contact me to let me know and I will send out an alert. This keeps the contact details used by the scammer in our records, making it easy for potential victims to identify them as scammers.

Additionally, the third-party mailing services that I know of that contact freelancers to "market" their CVs operate in the same way. The most notorious of these operations is the one documented at http://www.proz.com/blueboard/9086

Best regards,
Alejandro


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Helen Hagon  Identity Verified
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No May 20, 2016

I have a CV, but I rarely use it. It doesn't really contain much more than what is already on my Proz profile or my website, so I only send it if specifically asked.

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Andrea Garfield-Barkworth  Identity Verified
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No May 20, 2016

Certainly not and would never even entertain the idea. I like to know exactly where my CV is being sent.

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Julian Holmes  Identity Verified
Japan
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Thank you, all May 21, 2016

For your input.

Interesting that even 4.5% of responses were 'Yes'.


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Mario Freitas  Identity Verified
Brazil
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Other May 21, 2016

I voted "other" for two reasons.

1) When you submit your CV to an agency, you don't really know who they are re-sending it to. But you can be sure they will eventually send it to clients (service agencies, sometimes if requested) or to potential employers (every time, no exception).

2) When you send your CV by e-mail, aren't you using a third-party e-mailing sevice?

Anyway, in case of item 1 we are all aware of it when we send our CVs to an agency. So, over 90% of the people voted "no", though they authorize other people to do it, indirectly.


... after reading the other posts, I think I didn't understand the question. You are talking about mass mailing services, right? In that case, I should have voted "no", "never", "of course not", "no way".

[Edited at 2016-05-21 18:37 GMT]


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