Powwow: San Juan del Sur - Nicaragua

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Hege Jakobsen Lepri  Identity Verified
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meet-up nicaraguense? Dec 15, 2014

I will be in Nicaragua (first Leon and the San Juan) from December 21 to January 5 - and I was wondering if any of the lovcal translators would be interested in meeting up
(nb! my Spanish is rusty after decades of not using it, but I get by)

[Edited at 2014-12-16 13:30 GMT]

[Edited at 2014-12-16 13:30 GMT]


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Hege Jakobsen Lepri  Identity Verified
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date and venue.... Dec 15, 2014

are both negotiable

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Wilsonn Perez Reyes  Identity Verified
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Nil Dec 15, 2014

A Powwow in Nicaragua would be like having one in El Salvador or Honduras. The translation profession in these three countries is almost nil.

[Edited at 2014-12-15 19:37 GMT]

[Edited at 2014-12-15 19:38 GMT]


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Hege Jakobsen Lepri  Identity Verified
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I know Dec 16, 2014

that it is a long shot, Wilsonn, but there are a little over 100 translators' profiles based in Nicaragua according to proz.com records, so I may be lucky - who knows.

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Catherine Howard
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have you read other thread on problems with term "powwow"? Dec 16, 2014

It's ironic that, at the moment (Dec. 16), this thread is appearing right next to one called "Discontinue the use of the term 'powwow'." I wonder if you've read it: there's a lot of very thought-provoking comments there. Indeed, among educated people, "powwow" is considered a totally inappropriate term for a gathering, suggesting that the person using it is insensitive to how upsetting it is for Native Americans to hear the term misused. I know you don't mean it to be offensive, but it's worth listening to why Native Americans get offended if they hear other people using it casually. For other educated people, "powwow" is a term that professionals would avoid at all costs if they want to be taken seriously.

I wonder if you could find a better term. Many alternatives are discussed in the other thread.

Hope this is taken in the constructive spirit in which it is offered.

Catherine


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Hege Jakobsen Lepri  Identity Verified
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I have no problems changing a term that is culturally insensitive for some Dec 16, 2014

however, even if I do, this post is still listed in the category "powwows."

I know there is much discussion about the appropriation of terms from one culture in another, but the first nation's torontonians I've met locally have not mobilized against this specific term.

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Catherine Howard
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category change? Dec 16, 2014

You're right, there's still the issue of the category of "Powwows." Maybe those in charge at Proz can be convinced to change the name.

Besides being a term that offends some First Nation groups in some places, it's also a term that many (including me) consider to be unprofessional, outdated, and suggestive more of used-car salesmen rather than linguists. If we want to be taken seriously, we really can't keep on using such a pathetic term.

Did you see the suggestion in the other thread for "symprozium"? I like it, but there are other suggestions as well.


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Hege Jakobsen Lepri  Identity Verified
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Actually Dec 16, 2014

I must say that the idea you find the term "suggestive of used-car salesmen" to me is even more offensive than the fact that it is being used as a term for a cultural/linguistic meeting of translators. Not easy keeping the connotations/denotations of the term from adding to the injury, is it.
If you remember this debate from 2012 - about appropriation of cultural symbols in a demaning way - this clearly is not about simple use of a term out of context.
http://nativeappropriations.com/2012/09/paul-frank-offends-every-native-person-on-the-planet-with-fashion-night-out-dream-catchin-pow-wow.html

Personally I think Symprozium is a pretty bad term (and very euro-centric)

[Edited at 2014-12-18 06:43 GMT]


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Sergio Blandino  Identity Verified
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Let´s powwow Dec 24, 2014

Hello Hege, It would have been nice for me to be able to participate in a translators powwow in San Juan del Sur. Unfortunately I have already made plans for the 28th. I just got the notification even though I see some of your posts are dated Dec 16 I wonder what happened. However, I am in León and it would be nice to meet you if you have time for it. give me a call or e-mail me if you would like to meet.
please send the invitation with a few more days in advance next time.


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Hege Jakobsen Lepri  Identity Verified
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Let´s powwow Dec 31, 2014

sblandino wrote:

Hello Hege, It would have been nice for me to be able to participate in a translators powwow in San Juan del Sur. Unfortunately I have already made plans for the 28th. I just got the notification even though I see some of your posts are dated Dec 16 I wonder what happened. However, I am in León and it would be nice to meet you if you have time for it. give me a call or e-mail me if you would like to meet.
please send the invitation with a few more days in advance next time.
I'm sorry I didn't see this in time, but I had since moved on from Leon to Granada and then San Juan del Sur and got caught up in Christmas celebrations. Still enjoying Nicaragua very much, but my time is limited and there is still much to see.


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