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Thread poster: Charlotte Blank
Charlotte Blank  Identity Verified
Local time: 12:53
Czech to German
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Jan 19, 2010

Hello,

I just came across this one: http://www.proz.com/translation-jobs/384934

Languages: English to Dari, English to Flemish, English to Farsi (Persian), English to Danish, English to German, English to Dinka, English to Dutch, English to Estonian, English to Ewondo, English to Finnish, English to French, English to Georgian

The outsourcer has chosen to restrict quoting on this job to those who:
... are native speakers of French


Of course the outsourcer is free to restrict quoting to certain languages but in this case it seems to me as if "French" was chosen accidentally. As I have noticed similar cases a few times already here's my question: Would it be possible to put some sort of "warning" onto the relevant page?

Charlotte


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Steffen Walter  Identity Verified
Germany
Local time: 12:53
Member (2002)
English to German
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Restriction should not be used for multi-pair jobs Jan 19, 2010

Hi Charlotte,

As far as I remember, staff wanted to eliminate the option to specify a "required native language" if the job comprised several language pairs a long time ago. I don't know if this has been followed through, though. Shouldn't this issue be dealt with by ProZ.com support?

Steffen


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Laurent KRAULAND  Identity Verified
France
Local time: 12:53
French to German
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An option is to use... Jan 19, 2010

"Contact site staff if there is a problem with this job posting" under http://www.proz.com/support?mode=ask&type=jobs&preset_type=jobs&job_id=384934

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Lucia Leszinsky
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The outsourcer has been contacted for confirmation Jan 19, 2010

Hello all,

Thanks Charlotte for bringing this to my attention. It is true that sometimes the native language required or preferred for a job may not be related to the language pair(s) involved in the project but to the outsourcer's native language as many outsourcers only feel comfortable when doing business in their own native language.

In any case, I agree with you in that the native language for this job (as well as other jobs posted by the same outsourcer) may have been selected by mistake. So, I have contacted the outsourcer to confirm and edit their job postings accordingly.

Thanks for your patience.

Regards,

Lucia


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Steffen Walter  Identity Verified
Germany
Local time: 12:53
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English to German
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Not quite, Lucia Jan 19, 2010

Lucia Leszinsky wrote:
It is true that sometimes the native language required or preferred for a job may not be related to the language pair(s) involved in the project but to the outsourcer's native language as many outsourcers only feel comfortable when doing business in their own native language.


Hi Lucia,

I beg to disagree: as far as I recall, the "preferred" or "required native language" option has never served the purpose of indicating the native language preferably used by the outsourcer for communication purposes. Instead, this feature has always been used to indicate a project requirement. If outsourcers opt for a "required native language" just for communication purposes, this is simply incorrect IMHO (in which case it should be clarified accordingly on the job posting form).

Best regards,
Steffen

[Edited at 2010-01-19 12:53 GMT]


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Lucia Leszinsky
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Discrepancy taken into account for future job posting improvements Jan 19, 2010

Hi Steffen,

Ideally, the "Native language" requirement/preference in the job posting form should be selected according to the project language(s). However, since the job posting form poses no restriction on this, outsourcers may select a native language that best suits them to make business, even if the native language selected does not match any of the project languages.

This discrepancy has been observed and taken into account for future job posting improvements.

Thanks for your feedback.

Have a great day!

Lucia


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