Преступление и наказание - Crime and Punishment
Thread poster: Jack Doughty

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Aug 18, 2008

The question of sanctions against people for various offenses has been mentioned recently, mainly in connection with KudoZ, but some apply to other fields too.
I think the system of sanctions should be more clearly defined, particularly the length of time for which they are applied, who can apply them, what right of appeal there is against them and to whom.
The top sanction is expulsion from ProZ for the most serious offenses of all kinds, This can be permanent or for a specified period, after which the offender can re-apply (some do, some don't).
In KudoZ, I suppose people can be banned from using KudoZ altogether, but I'm not sure about this.
There is a sanction of loss of answering rights, and presumably one of loss of asking rights.
There is also a sanction of loss of "ask asker/discuss" rights. In the change from "Ask asker" into several fields including "discuss", this sanction has been carried over from one to the other, with no clear explanation as to why this is being done.
I presume a ban on using forums can also be applied, I'm not sure about this.
People have sometimes lost rights without being notified why. This should never happen.
KudoZ sanctions seem to be for an indefinite period. I think there should always be a specified term, often quite a short one. For example, in comments to an asker, there is a difference between calling him a complete idiot and simply quoting rule 2.1, which is apparently an offense under rule 3.7. The latter case would not seem to me to merit any sanction of more than a week.
A properly organized and genuine appeals system also seems necessary, so that people do not feel they are being punished arbitrarily by one particular moderator or staff member without possibility of redress.
I am not myself suggesting answers to all these questions, but I think there should be more openness, and that it is a subject worth discussing.

"My object all sublime
I shall achieve in time,
"To make the punishment fit the crime, the punishment fit the crime". (Gilbert & Sullivan, "The Mikado")
Are we achieving this?

"Justice should not only be done, but should be seen to be done".


Jared Tabor
Local time: 14:33
Site rules enforcement Aug 18, 2008

Hello Jack,

At the bottom of the rules page, http://www.proz.com/rules there is a brief explanation of the enforcement of site rules. The warnings or sanctions applied for rules violation are generally gradual, i.e., warning, short block, extended block, etc. This, however, will depend on the rule violated (posting off topic is not as grave as attempting job fraud, for example). Site moderators work closely and diligently with staff to ensure the observance of site rules, in order to maintain a secure and productive workplace for the community as a whole. Users are notified of restrictions on their use of the site which result from rules violations. If you believe this has not happened in a particular case, please let site staff know via the support system. Thanks.

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