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Samuel Murray 
Netherlands
Local time: 01:48
Member (2006)
English to Afrikaans
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Hello
Since the "like" feature was introduced, it has happened quite a lot that people edit their posts after others have "liked" their posts, often changing what they said in those posts, but the "likes" remain, as if those who "liked" the post still "likes" what is currently written.
I suggest that whenever anyone edits his/her post, all likes for that post are deleted and reset to zero. After all, the purpose of "likes" is not to say "I saw this post and I like the ... See more Hello
Since the "like" feature was introduced, it has happened quite a lot that people edit their posts after others have "liked" their posts, often changing what they said in those posts, but the "likes" remain, as if those who "liked" the post still "likes" what is currently written.
I suggest that whenever anyone edits his/her post, all likes for that post are deleted and reset to zero. After all, the purpose of "likes" is not to say "I saw this post and I like the person who wrote it" but to say "I agree with what the person wrote".
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Or at least notify the people who have pressed the Agree button that the post has been edited, so that they can go and see if they still agree with it.
| | | | DZiW (X)
Ukraine
English to Russian
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| a piece of cake | Apr 28, 2019 |
Samuel, how about waiting at least 24 hours before "agreeing", like in KudoZ? Simple.
Meanwhile, the "Agree" feature is rather vague, let alone in the same post there may be several points, including not agreeable.
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Deleting all likes because a typo is corrected would seem a bit over the top.
On the other hand, if a post is changed radically, others may no longer agree.
Advanced software could probably detect if a change is minor, but the resources needed to implement this don't seem to be justified.
A notification, as suggested by Elizabeth, seems to solve the problem.
In fact, a notification when someone changes a post in a forum one follows would be we... See more Deleting all likes because a typo is corrected would seem a bit over the top.
On the other hand, if a post is changed radically, others may no longer agree.
Advanced software could probably detect if a change is minor, but the resources needed to implement this don't seem to be justified.
A notification, as suggested by Elizabeth, seems to solve the problem.
In fact, a notification when someone changes a post in a forum one follows would be welcome in all cases. Those who follow forums by emails will only know if important new information is added if they stumble upon it in the forum by accident. And by the way, the old, last-century, text-only format in the email updates does not allow the post to be displayed correctly in any email application. This is an almost daily nuisance, but instead of fixing such basic issues, Proz are spending resources on Facebook chatter. It can’t be that complicated to email the html version. ▲ Collapse
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Robert Forstag
United States
Local time: 19:48
Spanish to English
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| A complete non-issue | Apr 28, 2019 |
Personally, when I edit my posts, it is almost always for one of the following reasons:
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To correct an error, or eliminate some awkwardness or infelicity that I hadn’t previously noticed.
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To add a phrase - or maybe a couple of sentences - to reinforce a point that I had made.
I think that this what many others do as well. Such practices do not “invalidate” previous agrees.
And notification e-mails whenever someone edits a post that I ... See more Personally, when I edit my posts, it is almost always for one of the following reasons:
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To correct an error, or eliminate some awkwardness or infelicity that I hadn’t previously noticed.
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To add a phrase - or maybe a couple of sentences - to reinforce a point that I had made.
I think that this what many others do as well. Such practices do not “invalidate” previous agrees.
And notification e-mails whenever someone edits a post that I have agreed with? No thank you!
If anyone wants to delete their “agree” with a given post, they can always do so - whether a post has been edited or not (and, as far as I can see, in perpetuity).
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| | | | Samuel Murray
Netherlands
Local time: 01:48
Member (2006)
English to Afrikaans
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TOPIC STARTER | @Thomas, @Elizabeth, @Robert, @Katalin | Apr 28, 2019 |
Thomas T. Frost wrote:
In fact, a notification when someone changes a post in a forum one follows would be welcome in all cases.
I agree that there can be more options for notifications, which people would have to choose to subscribe to or not. For example, I would very much like to receive notifications of replies in any thread where I have posted something, but ProZ.com doesn't currently offer that option. And getting notified if someone edits their post would be nice as well, though preferably along with the option for people to tick a box "this is a minor edit" when they edit their posts, so that edits for the sake of typos don't generate notifications.
However, the odds of extra notifications being implemented are not favourable. The "likes" feature is sufficiently new (and was implemented by a current developer) that it may still be improved.
Elizabeth Tamblin wrote:
Or at least notify the people who have pressed the Agree button that the post has been edited, so that they can go and see if they still agree with it.
I'm inclined to agree that it is not unrealistic to assume that clicking the Agree button is a tacit approval to be "subscribed" to all further edits of that specific post.
Robert Forstag wrote:
Personally, when I edit my posts, it is almost always for one of the following reasons...
My suggestion is not for the sake of the person whose post is "liked", but for the sake of other readers in the thread (who use the "likes" as a way to gauge trends of opinions), as well as for people who "like" posts.
Katalin Szilárd wrote:
Since English is not my native-language, just as other non-English native speakers, I often correct my mistakes in my posts only after a while.
I also correct my posts for typing errors mostly after I've already posted the post. However, I don't wait a long time before re-reading my post to see if what I've written is what I had intended to write.
I would like to believe that most of the time when people edit their posts for fixing typos, it would be soon after they've posted it, and this means that it would be unlikely that they had amassed very many "likes" to lose.
[Edited at 2019-04-28 16:36 GMT]
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Samuel Murray wrote:
Hello
Since the "like" feature was introduced, it has happened quite a lot that people edit their posts after others have "liked" their posts, often changing what they said in those posts, but the "likes" remain, as if those who "liked" the post still "likes" what is currently written.
I suggest that whenever anyone edits his/her post, all likes for that post are deleted and reset to zero. After all, the purpose of "likes" is not to say "I saw this post and I like the person who wrote it" but to say "I agree with what the person wrote".
Samuel
Since English is not my native-language, just as other non-English native speakers, I often correct my mistakes in my posts only after a while. When I read through my posts more times, or when I figure out later that in English I should express something differently than in Hungarian. And as many language pairs we have here, so we think differently when it comes to writing in English. This includes proverbs, sayings, and other cultural backgrounds. For example in one of the posts I read somewhere "Storm in the water glass". I would have definitely written that as "Storm in the potty" because in Hungarian we use this version of that saying. So sometimes such post editings are not just about editing typos or grammar mistakes, but expressing ourselves more clearly for everybody.
Maybe using optional notification emails could solve this problem, but these should be sent only when the content is changed. Not due to correcting typos or mistakes.
| | | | Andy Watkinson
Spain
Local time: 01:48
Member
Catalan to English
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| Already exists. | Apr 28, 2019 |
Samuel Murray wrote:
For example, I would very much like to receive notifications of replies in any thread where I have posted something, but ProZ.com doesn't currently offer that option.
There is the "track this thread" feature which when activated will notify you of replies to a thread.
(If that's what you meant)
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Kay Denney
France
Local time: 01:48
French to English
Andy Watkinson wrote: Samuel Murray wrote:
For example, I would very much like to receive notifications of replies in any thread where I have posted something, but ProZ.com doesn't currently offer that option.
There is the "track this thread" feature which when activated will notify you of replies to a thread. (If that's what you meant)
thanks for that tip, I didn't know about that feature. However there are loads of forums where you can see at a glance that somebody has added to a thread that you have previously either read or contributed to without having to do anything at all apart from log in and look.
| | | | Samuel Murray
Netherlands
Local time: 01:48
Member (2006)
English to Afrikaans
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TOPIC STARTER | Re: track this thread | Apr 28, 2019 |
Andy Watkinson wrote:
There is the "track this thread" feature which when activated will notify you of replies to a thread.
It's not automatic, but it is sufficient, thanks! For those who don't know this feature:
1. First, scroll all the way to the top of the page.
2. Then scroll down one screen.
3. Then look to the right of the screen:
| | | | | Time of posts | Apr 28, 2019 |
Samuel Murray wrote: Thomas T. Frost wrote:
In fact, a notification when someone changes a post in a forum one follows would be welcome in all cases. I agree that there can be more options for notifications, which people would have to choose to subscribe to or not. For example, I would very much like to receive notifications of replies in any thread where I have posted something, but ProZ.com doesn't currently offer that option. And getting notified if someone edits their post would be nice as well, though preferably along with the option for people to tick a box "this is a minor edit" when they edit their posts, so that edits for the sake of typos don't generate notifications. However, the odds of extra notifications being implemented are not favourable. The "likes" feature is sufficiently new (and was implemented by a current developer) that it may still be improved. Elizabeth Tamblin wrote:
Or at least notify the people who have pressed the Agree button that the post has been edited, so that they can go and see if they still agree with it. I'm inclined to agree that it is not unrealistic to assume that clicking the Agree button is a tacit approval to be "subscribed" to all further edits of that specific post. Robert Forstag wrote:
Personally, when I edit my posts, it is almost always for one of the following reasons... My suggestion is not for the sake of the person whose post is "liked", but for the sake of other readers in the thread (who use the "likes" as a way to gauge trends of opinions), as well as for people who "like" posts. Katalin Szilárd wrote:
Since English is not my native-language, just as other non-English native speakers, I often correct my mistakes in my posts only after a while. I also correct my posts for typing errors mostly after I've already posted the post. However, I don't wait a long time before re-reading my post to see if what I've written is what I had intended to write. I would like to believe that most of the time when people edit their posts for fixing typos, it would be soon after they've posted it, and this means that it would be unlikely that they had amassed very many "likes" to lose. [Edited at 2019-04-28 16:36 GMT]
Samuel, how were you able to quote my post?
I wrote my post before you. I wrote it at 15:17 and you answered my post at 15:08...
Is this bug? Are the posts put according to the last editing? This is new to me.
[Edited at 2019-04-28 17:55 GMT]
| | | | Samuel Murray
Netherlands
Local time: 01:48
Member (2006)
English to Afrikaans
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TOPIC STARTER
Katalin Szilárd wrote: Samuel, how were you able to quote my post?
It's the magic of post editing (no, the OTHER kind of "post" editing). Sometimes the sequence of posts matter. In this case it didn't, so instead of creating a new reply, I simply added it to a previous post. I knew I did this when I did this. ;-p
Are the posts put according to the last editing?
The order of posts do sometimes change somewhat, for reasons unknown to me. It has happened to me at least a few times that a certain post was *after* mine for a while, and then moved to *before* mine a little later. It doesn't happen often, though. I suspect that editing a post can sometimes affect the post's position, but it usually does not.
[Edited at 2019-04-28 18:34 GMT]
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| | Samuel Murray
Netherlands
Local time: 01:48
Member (2006)
English to Afrikaans
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TOPIC STARTER | Kay Denney
France
Local time: 01:48
French to English
| another suggestion | Apr 29, 2019 |
why not make it possible to edit only until the post gets liked or quoted?
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