How do clients see my profile?
Thread poster: Sheila Wilson

Sheila Wilson  Identity Verified
Spain
Local time: 05:12
Member (2007)
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Oct 21, 2009

Forgive me if I'm being terribly naïve (I'm from the chalk and slate generation), but how, exactly, do I get to see my profile on ProZ as my clients would see it?

I've never considered the problem in the past, just sent potential clients the link to my profile (in English, I suppose). Today, I was writing to some potential direct clients who I have reason to believe from their advertising (:roll:) speak no English. It occurred to me that I needed to give them something 100% French, so I searched for the link that I should send them.

Firstly, it seems that you can only change languages from the bottom of the main screen, nowhere else.

Secondly, it seems you have to log out before you can see what someone else would see - if I look at my profile, it automatically shows things that are "private". Of course, you then have to log back in to use the site to any extent.

Thirdly, although my profile text ("about me", etc) seems to be in French (did I do that??), the home page seems to be in English, even in the French version. I noticed as I particularly wanted to know how ProZ describes itself in French.

Perhaps others could comment on the above - it may be that I've missed something, although I have consulted the FAQ to the best of my ability. If it's true, do others see the need for a page "as others see me" and for the home page to be 100% localised?


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Nicole Y. Adams, M.A.  Identity Verified
Australia
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'Force visitor view' Oct 21, 2009

Hi Sheila,

To address the first part of your question: you can remain logged in and simply click on 'Force visitor view' on your profile page (just under the 'Home' tab in the centre of the page). To exit the visitor view you click on 'Return to owner view'.

Hope this helps,

Nicole

[Edited at 2009-10-21 21:39 GMT]


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Thomas Pfann  Identity Verified
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A few answers Oct 21, 2009

Hi Sheila,

First of all, you can see how other people see your profile by clicking on 'Force Visitor View' on your profile page in the top middle (just underneath the tabs 'Home', 'Kudoz').

Then, I'm not sure, but I always thought that if you send someone a link to your profile they see it automatically in their language (the langauge of their operating system). I'm not sure, though, if this is indeed the case. To make sure they see it in French you can add 'fra' to the URL: So instead of

http://www.proz.com/profile

you send them a link to

http://fra.proz.com/profile

And the profile text which appears in the 'About Me' section was written by you and apparently you also translated it. The content in there is always what you entered yourself. I, for example, haven't translated mine, so the content in my 'About Me' section appears in English even when I view my profile in a non-English version of proZ.com. (Somewhere in the profile updater there is the option to localise your own profile - you must have done that at some point.)

Hope this helps a bit.


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Enrique Cavalitto
Local time: 02:12
SITE STAFF
Great reply added as FAQ Oct 21, 2009

Nicole Y. Adams, M.A. wrote:

Hi Sheila,

To address the first part of your question: you can remain logged in and simply click on 'Force visitor view' on your profile page (just under the 'Home' tab in the centre of the page). To exit the visitor view you click on 'Return to owner view'.



Thanks Nicole, excellent reply, I added it as a FAQ at http://www.proz.com/faq/21890#21890

Kind regards,
Enrique


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Sheila Wilson  Identity Verified
Spain
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Thanks for your help Oct 22, 2009

Thanks Nicole and Thomas for pointing out the "force" - I must have seen it a thousand times! And thanks Enrique for adding it to the FAQ.

For the language it's seen in, I'm not so sure - my operating system is French, yet I see the site in English, but perhaps that's because I've chosen to do so.

For those of you who prefer to view the site completely in French, is it really 100% in French?


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Thomas Pfann  Identity Verified
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Not quite 100%, but nearly Oct 22, 2009

Sheila Wilson wrote:
For those of you who prefer to view the site completely in French, is it really 100% in French?


There is a section with information about the localisation of the ProZ.com website. Go to 'About' > 'Localization' to find out more about it.

There you can also find some interesting stats for each language. According to those the French localisation is 98% completed (http://eng.proz.com/?sp=localization&sp_mode=stats). Which is pretty good. I didn't find any other languages with such a high percentage.


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Sheila Wilson  Identity Verified
Spain
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Why do I see fra. page in English? Oct 22, 2009

Thomas Pfann wrote:
There you can also find some interesting stats for each language. According to those the French localisation is 98% completed


But when I change the language to French, logout (otherwise I only see my own home page) and access "Accueil", I see the text on this page: http://fra.proz.com/ in English. Surely all the text should be in French, not just the ancillary bits.


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Tom in London
United Kingdom
Local time: 05:12
Member (2008)
Italian to English
A related question Oct 22, 2009

I have a related question.

In "visitor view" of my page, the URL is

http://www.proz.com/?sp=profile&eid_s=617634&sp_mode=profile&visitor=1

That's a very ugly URL to be sending people.

Can't it be simplified?


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Russell Jones  Identity Verified
United Kingdom
Local time: 05:12
Italian to English
To Tom Oct 23, 2009

Actually it isn't for actual visitors Tom; it's: http://www.proz.com/translator/617634.

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Tom in London
United Kingdom
Local time: 05:12
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Italian to English
Yes but Oct 23, 2009

Thanks, Russell - I never knew I could use a nice clean URL ! I certainly never knew what it was before.

That's because on my page, whether I click to go to "owner view" or "visitor view" I get those ugly urls and not the clean one.....

But now that you've kindly given me the correct one, that's the one I'll give clients, in future.

Thanks !

But hopefully those messy URLs can also be cleaned up....

[Edited at 2009-10-23 09:57 GMT]


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Enrique Cavalitto
Local time: 02:12
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The link is in your profile Oct 23, 2009

Hi Tom,

You can find this information in your own profile, above your picture and username.



I have added this question to the profile FAQs.

Kind regards,
Enrique


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Tom in London
United Kingdom
Local time: 05:12
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THanks Oct 24, 2009

Enrique wrote:

Hi Tom,

You can find this information in your own profile, above your picture and username.



I have added this question to the profile FAQs.

Kind regards,
Enrique


Thanks Enrique - but when I click to see my page in "visitor view" that "clean" link disappears and the URL in the location bar is the "ugly" one.

The same thing happens when I click alternatively on the "owner view" or "visitor view" link at the top of the page; the URL in the location bar reverts to the "ugly" one.

[Edited at 2009-10-24 10:34 GMT]


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Andreas Nieckele  Identity Verified
Brazil
Local time: 02:12
English to Portuguese
URL Oct 24, 2009

Tom,

Everyone who visits your profile using the "clean" URL will see your profile as a visitor. The "force visitor view" option is for the owner only, and it displays your profile as any visitor would see it when accessing the "clean" URL. Visitors naturally don't see all those options who are meant to be used by the owner only.

Try logging off and accessing the clean URL of your profile and you will see.

[Edited at 2009-10-24 15:04 GMT]


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