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How's the weekend? Feb 4, 2006

Natalie wrote:

Then we may start at any time. Please just notify us of the date.


Is this weekend acceptable? There will be an initial speedbump in terms of adjusting and converting old posts to unicode, so the weekend might be better than the work week.

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OK Feb 4, 2006

We'll be waiting for the 'start' command


 
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OK! Feb 4, 2006

Natalie wrote:

We'll be waiting for the 'start' command


I will make the change 5 PM GMT this afternoon. I'll be around for a while after that, so if you run into any problems just let me know.

Andrew Wright


 
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First problems? Feb 4, 2006

Hi Andrew,

You have probably changed something as in the thread http://www.proz.com/topic/42199 the title is in unicode while the rest of the thread remains in win1251

I don't see any other changes at the moment.


 
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The thread title seems to be independent of all other messages in the thread Feb 4, 2006

I have just tried clicking the icon in this thread http://www.proz.com/topic/25175 and succeeded in converting the title only.

Update: OK, now I can see the buttons for conversion of individual postings.




The title of the thread http://www.proz.com/topic/42199 is trunca
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I have just tried clicking the icon in this thread http://www.proz.com/topic/25175 and succeeded in converting the title only.

Update: OK, now I can see the buttons for conversion of individual postings.




The title of the thread http://www.proz.com/topic/42199 is truncated.



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Andrew Wright (X)
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Fixed truncation Feb 4, 2006

Natalie wrote:

The title of the thread http://www.proz.com/topic/42199 is truncated.




Oh sorry, I accidently tested one before I fixed the character limitations. There shouldnt be any more truncation of titles.

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Oops! Feb 4, 2006

Andrew, I have converted the whole thread http://www.proz.com/topic/42199 and everything went fine until I converted the last posting. Now I see only garbage (though I have unicode set up in my browser).


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Hmm...It's OK now


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Andrew, I have converted the whole thread http://www.proz.com/topic/42199 and everything went fine until I converted the last posting. Now I see only garbage (though I have unicode set up in my browser).


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Hmm...It's OK now


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OK, it works!

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Andrew Wright (X)
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Information on conversion tool Feb 4, 2006

Please see the following link for a description of the character set conversion tool:

http://www.proz.com/?sp=charset_issues

I have also updated the FAQ page for character sets to include more information on Unicode:

http://www.proz.com/faq/localization

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Please see the following link for a description of the character set conversion tool:

http://www.proz.com/?sp=charset_issues

I have also updated the FAQ page for character sets to include more information on Unicode:

http://www.proz.com/faq/localization


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Thanks Andrew! Feb 4, 2006

We'll proceed with conversion.

Have a nice Sunday,
Natalia


 
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Houston, we have another problem! Feb 4, 2006

Andrew, while everything seems to be fine in the forum, the email notifications are unreadable - could you please take a look into the problem?

Thanks,
Natalia


 
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On it! Feb 4, 2006

Natalie wrote:

Andrew, while everything seems to be fine in the forum, the email notifications are unreadable - could you please take a look into the problem?

Thanks,
Natalia


I noticed that too just now. Unicode support in email is a complicated subject, but I'll have a solution for you before too long!

Andrew Wright


 
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Worked on notifications Feb 4, 2006

Ok, I think I've got notifications fixed. I've made it so that they go out in Windows-1251, that a mail server or client without unicode support won't ruin every message it receives.

Let me know if it happens again.

Andrew Wright


 
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Some thoughts Feb 4, 2006

1) Email notifications - could we state email encoding, be it windows-1251 or Unicode? Just a line:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="our favorite"

in the header!

2) Why not convert all the Russian postings at once? Most of them are windows-1251, so we'll need to examine just the garbled ones instead of confirming each and every one!

Wishing everyone a productive weekend

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1) Email notifications - could we state email encoding, be it windows-1251 or Unicode? Just a line:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="our favorite"

in the header!

2) Why not convert all the Russian postings at once? Most of them are windows-1251, so we'll need to examine just the garbled ones instead of confirming each and every one!

Wishing everyone a productive weekend

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More thoughts Feb 4, 2006

Boris Kimel wrote:

1) Email notifications - could we state email encoding, be it windows-1251 or Unicode? Just a line:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="our favorite"

in the header!



This is in the works. Since I'm working on converting KudoZ, jobs, forums and emails somethings are being put off a little bit. Just hang in there and it'll be there.


2) Why not convert all the Russian postings at once? Most of them are windows-1251, so we'll need to examine just the garbled ones instead of confirming each and every one!

Wishing everyone a productive weekend

[Edited at 2006-02-04 22:45]


This is actually a good idea, unfortunately my schedule only has room for so many good ideas. Because some forums and a lot of KudoZ questions involve multiple character sets we needed a way to do it on a case-by-case basis which left little time for making a tool to bulk convert and undo any mistakes.

Andrew Wright


 
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Hi Andrew Feb 5, 2006

And what should one do in case s/he tried to convert a posting but something went wrong? The conversion buttons disappear and there is no more possibility to correct the error.

Examples:
http://www.proz.com/post/292872#292872
(the title is converted but the body of the posti
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And what should one do in case s/he tried to convert a posting but something went wrong? The conversion buttons disappear and there is no more possibility to correct the error.

Examples:
http://www.proz.com/post/292872#292872
(the title is converted but the body of the posting remains in win1251)

http://www.proz.com/post/292906#292906
(remains in win1251 and no buttons are seen)

http://www.proz.com/post/292937#292937
(same as above, but in this case I intentionally clicked the 'unexpected problem encountered' button to see what would happen; as a result the buttons disappeared)

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No buttons here, too:
http://www.proz.com/topic/42025
http://www.proz.com/post/231789#231789



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