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Big scam: evaluation of Western Union's services
Thread poster: Carla Guerreiro

Carla Guerreiro  Identity Verified
France
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French to Portuguese
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Feb 12, 2012

Dear Proz Members,

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kbenhainsworth (kbenhainsworth@gmail.com)



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Hi,


We have an evaluation project in the whole of Europe which
involves me communicating with someone who understands English.


Could you please inform me about your availability.
More information about this evaluation is below.
Thans


We are currently searching for English speakers in EUROPE to help
us with our survey.
Currently, we have been paid to evaluate the services of a
prestigious company which
is the WESTERN UNION.


The WESTERN UNION is a company that offers money transfer
services.


The sole aim of this job is to evaluate the services of WESTERN
UNION in your area.
We have received a lot of reports about their poor services.
Hence I will give you a detailed job description in key points.




* You are to locate a Western Union office you intend to
evaluate.( If you need a list of WESTERN UNION in your area please
specify.)


* A cheque would be sent to you to enable you to have funds that
would be transferred to another individual
like you who would be evaluating another Western Union office in
his / her location.


* You deposit the cheques into your account.




* You deduct your wage of 200Eur.


* You transfer the balance (after the subtraction of your wage and
possible bank charges) to the name and address that would be
attached to the cheque.


*NOTE* during the transfer process, you observe key things that
would be sent to you inform of a questionnaire via email/post to
enable you to give us detailed feed back of the whole process.




* After the transfer, you fill out the questionnaire and give a
general comment about the whole process.




The reports would be based on how true/false the complaints of
these worried customers are.


Materials needed for the evaluation would be posted to you.


Hence your duties would be to go to a WESTERN UNION outlet in your
locality as a customer.


You do not require any experience in this field as detailed
guidelines
would be given to you to ensure a successful completion.


This role would pay 200Eur per Evaluation.


Your details would undergo security checks before the position is
granted to you.




First Name: Last Name:
Age: Address:
City: Country:
Postal Code: Mobile Number:
Home Phone: Email Address:


We await your urgent response. Thank you for your help, we look
forward to working with you.


Best Regards,
Ben Hainsworth
+447956968663
+442081446028







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Be careful!!! And report this profile.

Thank you.


 

Bazalt
Local time: 21:08
French to Polish
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Western Union's services Feb 12, 2012

Me too.
Does anybody know sth. about it?
Regards,
Chris.


 

Teresa Borges
Portugal
Local time: 20:08
Member (2007)
English to Portuguese
+ ...
You should send a support request Feb 12, 2012

This kind of scam has been often reported... Thanks, anyway!

 

FlyHi
France
Local time: 21:08
English to Spanish
+ ...
Many people get it Feb 12, 2012

A friend of mine also got this scam this morning, luckily she ignored it.

 

Carla Guerreiro  Identity Verified
France
Local time: 21:08
French to Portuguese
+ ...
TOPIC STARTER
Done Feb 12, 2012

Teresa Borges wrote:

This kind of scam has been often reported... Thanks, anyway!


I did it already.

Thanks!


 

Laurent KRAULAND (X)  Identity Verified
France
Local time: 21:08
French to German
+ ...
I reported the user! Feb 12, 2012

Also there were some very similar scam attempts not so long ago, the big red flag being the wording "the WESTERN UNION", if nothing else.

I think it is more than time that translators wake up!


 

Natalie  Identity Verified
Poland
Local time: 21:08
Member (2002)
English to Russian
+ ...

MODERATOR
Hi folks Feb 12, 2012

Many thanks for reporting the profile, it is completely blocked now and left visible so people could see the BB record where it is linked:

http://www.proz.com/blueboard/36175


 

parolista  Identity Verified
France
Local time: 21:08
French to English
+ ...
Western Union scam Feb 12, 2012

What worries me is that the person has become a ProZ.com member in order to scam us. Look at the profile, created Feb 2012. No other details whatsoever of type of business, languages etc so I wonder if they could have been spotted sooner by ProZ on signing up for membership as this was an empty, "skeletal" profile???

Thanks was written as thans

Phone numbers are UK numbers.

parolista


 

Catherine GUILLIAUMET  Identity Verified
Local time: 21:08
English to French
+ ...
A good point, Parolista !! Feb 12, 2012

parolista wrote:

What worries me is that the person has become a ProZ.com member in order to scam us. Look at the profile, created Feb 2012. No other details whatsoever of type of business, languages etc so I wonder if they could have been spotted sooner by ProZ on signing up for membership as this was an empty, "skeletal" profile???

Thanks was written as thans

Phone numbers are UK numbers.

parolista


Yes, you have a good point, here.

I don't know what other colleagues will think about this, but taking into account this new fast-spreading disease, I mean using ProZ as a vector for scamming/spamming members, maybe ProZ should not actually register a new member until s/he completes her/his profile (even if this new future member pays her/his membership fees immediately, i.e. when trying to register).

What do you think ?

Have a nice Sunday
Catherine

[Edited at 2012-02-12 11:10 GMT]


 

Natalie  Identity Verified
Poland
Local time: 21:08
Member (2002)
English to Russian
+ ...

MODERATOR
Why not? Feb 12, 2012

parolista wrote:

What worries me is that the person has become a ProZ.com member in order to scam us.



They create not only profiles, but also websites, fake agencies and even fake "associations" to scam others - see the neighboring thread about another scammer: http://www.proz.com/topic/217853

Natalia


 

Carla Guerreiro  Identity Verified
France
Local time: 21:08
French to Portuguese
+ ...
TOPIC STARTER
I agree! Feb 12, 2012

Catherine GUILLIAUMET wrote:


Yes, you have a good point, here.

I don't know what other colleagues will think about this, but taking into account this new fast-spreading disease, I mean using ProZ as a vector for scamming/spamming members, maybe ProZ should not actually register a new member until s/he completes her/his profile (even if this new future member pays her/his membership fees immediately, i.e. when trying to register).

What do you think ?

Have a nice Sunday
Catherine

[Edited at 2012-02-12 11:10 GMT]


I totally agree and I won't be a paying member until Proz solves this kind of problem.


 

Catherine GUILLIAUMET  Identity Verified
Local time: 21:08
English to French
+ ...
In the "Ideas" section, I suggested a new weapon against s(p/c)ammers Feb 12, 2012

Re-Hi,

In the "Ideas" section of ProZ, I entered the suggestion I made in my previous post in this thread.

I called it "A new (easy to implement) weapon against scammers using ProZ"

If you think that it could be appropriate, you can vote for it.

At least, it could be a basis for considering improvements.

Have a nice Sunday (supposed to be the last "big cold" day here)

Catherine

[Edited at 2012-02-12 11:28 GMT]


 

Enrique Cavalitto  Identity Verified
Argentina
Local time: 16:08
Member (2006)
English to Spanish
Action and plans Feb 12, 2012

Catherine GUILLIAUMET wrote:

parolista wrote:

What worries me is that the person has become a ProZ.com member in order to scam us. Look at the profile, created Feb 2012. No other details whatsoever of type of business, languages etc so I wonder if they could have been spotted sooner by ProZ on signing up for membership as this was an empty, "skeletal" profile???

Thanks was written as thans

Phone numbers are UK numbers.

parolista


Yes, you have a good point, here.

I don't know what other colleagues will think about this, but taking into account this new fast-spreading disease, I mean using ProZ as a vector for scamming/spamming members, maybe ProZ should not actually register a new member until s/he completes her/his profile (even if this new future member pays her/his membership fees immediately, i.e. when trying to register).

What do you think ?


Hi Catherine,

As Natalie reported above, the profile used for sending this scam has ben fully blocked and associated with a BB page related to this scam.

Because of these actions the profile shows the message "Blue Board: ATTENTION - SCAMMER! / SECRET SHOPPER SCAMMER / WESTERN UNION SCAMMER" and this will serve as a warning to other translators that received the same notification.

Automatic filters looking for a minimum content would not be effective in this case, becase it would be too easy to enter fake values for any information made mandatory by the system.

A new section of the ProZ.com dedicated to diseminate information on scams, including notifications to subcribing users will be launched in the next few days and other additional mechanisms will be evaluated.

Regards,
Enrique


 

Laurent KRAULAND (X)  Identity Verified
France
Local time: 21:08
French to German
+ ...
While we are at it, Enrique... Feb 12, 2012

I see that there is no "Report spam" link in the messages coming from the ProZ.com directory.

Could ProZ.com possibly contemplate the implementation of such a link?


 

Catherine GUILLIAUMET  Identity Verified
Local time: 21:08
English to French
+ ...
@Enrique: as for burglaries ... Feb 12, 2012

Enrique wrote:

Catherine GUILLIAUMET wrote:

Yes, you have a good point, here.

I don't know what other colleagues will think about this, but taking into account this new fast-spreading disease, I mean using ProZ as a vector for scamming/spamming members, maybe ProZ should not actually register a new member until s/he completes her/his profile (even if this new future member pays her/his membership fees immediately, i.e. when trying to register).

What do you think ?


Hi Catherine,

As Natalie reported above, the profile used for sending this scam has ben fully blocked and associated with a BB page related to this scam.

Because of these actions the profile shows the message "Blue Board: ATTENTION - SCAMMER! / SECRET SHOPPER SCAMMER / WESTERN UNION SCAMMER" and this will serve as a warning to other translators that received the same notification.

Automatic filters looking for a minimum content would not be effective in this case, becase it would be too easy to enter fake values for any information made mandatory by the system.

A new section of the ProZ.com dedicated to diseminate information on scams, including notifications to subcribing users will be launched in the next few days and other additional mechanisms will be evaluated.

Regards,
Enrique



Dear Enrique,

Thank you for your fast action against this one (and all others which honest members draw ProZ staff attention on).

However, I don't agree with you on the supposed ineffectiveness of the mandatory completion of a profile for new subscribers.

I'll try to explain why and apologize in advance for my English :

I suppose that in all countries, police experts will explain, as they do in France, that the best way to avoid burglaries/robberies is to take every possible measure likely to prevent criminals from breaking into our houses, the best mean being to make them realize that the necessary procedures to enter are far too much time-consuming and will not be worth the effort at all.

Of course, it's on doors and windows that we should focus our attention.

In fact, ProZ is like a house, our house, and the door and windows of it are not sufficiently armoured to be able to discourage and repel burglars, i.e. scammers.

Believe me, if an imposter with malicious intent is obliged to fill in a full/complete profile (and not only registering name and address) before being allowed to contact any member, in most cases s/he will give up rapidly, because from her/his point of view, it is not "profitable".

Don't forget that most of them are lazy, and are seeking rapid and easy profit with the least effort and risk possible, as those who want to break into our houses in real life do.

It's why I made this suggestion : http://proz.uservoice.com/forums/37172-general/suggestions/2591846-a-new-easy-to-implement-weapon-against-spammers-

Of course, such a measure will not prevent every and all scams/spams, but a large part of them.

Have a nice evening

Catherine



[Edited at 2012-02-12 22:19 GMT]


 
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