Is Rocco Buttiglione a scammer?
Thread poster: Mariella Vanbaelen

Mariella Vanbaelen  Identity Verified
Belgium
Local time: 07:19
Member (2012)
French to Dutch
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Jul 18, 2012

The man that sent me the message is Rocco Buttiglione (like the Italian politician).
He has a gmail account, wants to pay by check, he has a private IP number,...

He posted a job here on ProZ on July 5, to which I replied.
But the funny thing is that he had a profile on ProZ, with a comment of one translator who gave him a good quote! When the job was closed, I couldn't find his profile anymore...
He has only given me an address.

I told him that I don't accept checks, so he asked my bank transfer details.

Here is what he wrote (he answered me July 9):

"Thank you for your interest. Sorry, i reply late, am sick.Here is the
> text.
>>
>> The delivery date is negotiable but must be done in 3weeks
>> ++ Can you state out your date of delivery and method in which you
>> will have all done
>> ++ please calculate the total amount, also state out the discount..
>>
>> I hope we can come to term for success of this project. Thank you
>>
>> Best regards"

And in his next message:
"Hello Mariella,
>
> I have checked your quote and i am pleased to tell you that i choose
> you to work on the project for we are in between a new business.I am a
> Private investor who work with local and few foreign business on short
> time business. Part payment will be issued out but will be paying via
> Check.My VAT is not ready,please add VAT
>
>
> Please provide your information for payment.
> Name.
> Address.
> City.
> Country.
> Phone."


Thank you in advance!
Mariella


 

Louisa Berry
United Kingdom
Local time: 06:19
Member (2009)
German to English
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Sounds like a scam Jul 18, 2012

Sounds like a scam to me.

He mentions part payment.. wanted to pay by cheque.. and the line

I am a Private investor who work with local and few foreign business on short time business.

sounds similar to other scams I have seen.


 

Mariella Vanbaelen  Identity Verified
Belgium
Local time: 07:19
Member (2012)
French to Dutch
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TOPIC STARTER
Thank you! Jul 18, 2012

Thank you, Louisa!icon_smile.gif

 

Enrique Cavalitto  Identity Verified
Argentina
Local time: 02:19
Member (2006)
English to Spanish
This is a classic overpayment scam Jul 18, 2012

You can find a very similar scam in the scam alert report sent on June 15, 2012.

I plan to issue a new alert today, as there are new reports involving new names and email addresses. ProZ.com member can subscribe to the messages from the translators scam alert center.

Regards,
Enrique Cavalitto


 

Joakim Braun  Identity Verified
Sweden
Local time: 07:19
German to Swedish
+ ...
My rule of thumb Jul 18, 2012

If there's no space character after interpunction, it's a scam.

 

Robert Forstag  Identity Verified
United States
Local time: 01:19
Member (2003)
Spanish to English
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Use of a common name is yet another scam tactic Jul 18, 2012

In addition to the other telltale signs mentioned, I've found over the years that scammers sometimes choose common names (or the names of famous persons) in order to make it impossible to track their internet footprint.

In any case, "Rocco's" deception can justifiably be termed a butt-ugly scam of the most egregious sort....


 

Usch Pilz
Local time: 07:19
English to German
+ ...
Same thing last November Jul 18, 2012

Hi Marialla,
there was a series of scam-attempts in November/December 2011. Almost the exact same wording was used in the e-mails. The only real difference was the name of the "client".
In the end it all turned out to be the usual old but still common "overpayment by cheque"-fraud.
So I think it might be the same people. They have given it a rest with proz.com for a while and now they are returning.
Thanks for posting!
Usch


 

Mariella Vanbaelen  Identity Verified
Belgium
Local time: 07:19
Member (2012)
French to Dutch
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TOPIC STARTER
Thanks... Jul 19, 2012

everyone for your reactions!

 

Juliane Richter  Identity Verified
France
Local time: 07:19
English to German
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Roberto Sacco = Rocco Buttiglione Jul 21, 2012

Hello Mariella,

Rocco Buttiglione, or Roberto Sacco, that's his actual name, did the same thing to me today.

He also had a positive entry on the Blue Board, which I couldn't find anymore later on.

The poor guy must be sick very often...

Here his job posting:

http://www.proz.com/translation-jobs/671875


 

Nathan Vymyslicky  Identity Verified
Germany
Local time: 07:19
Member (2011)
English to German
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Roberto sacco comes again...and he still is sick, poor guy Jul 22, 2012

same scam today:


Hello Nathan,

Thanks for your response and sorry i reply late.Been sick for sometime. I attached the text document. Please get back with your total rate and time of completion.

Regards

afterwards he becomes really bold...


 

Mariella Vanbaelen  Identity Verified
Belgium
Local time: 07:19
Member (2012)
French to Dutch
+ ...
TOPIC STARTER
Thank... Jul 23, 2012

you Juliane and Nathan for your reaction!icon_smile.gif

 

Enrique Cavalitto  Identity Verified
Argentina
Local time: 02:19
Member (2006)
English to Spanish
Another version of this scam Jul 23, 2012

Another version of this scam has been reported, this time using the name Tommaso Giovanni and the email address tgiovanni7@gmail.com

This name has been added to this scam report.

Regards,
Enrique


 


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