More scammers at work
Thread poster: Yasdnil1
Yasdnil1  Identity Verified
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Apr 27, 2013

This morning an email with a gmail adddress, offering a job from EN > DE (I work DE > DEN), unsolicited, documents attached. Gmail address and supposed company name entirely different. IP address on email does not resolve to any known location. Reminds me of the scam 2 years ago from Palestine.

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Paweł Hamerski
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No wonder Apr 27, 2013

when your profile here shows DE>EN. If the document is something unique just reply and you willl see.

[Edited at 2013-04-27 15:05 GMT]


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Yasdnil1  Identity Verified
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what? Apr 27, 2013

Not sure what you are trying to say Pawel. But anyone with a gmail address senidng unsolicited work is a scammer for sure.

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Balasubramaniam L.  Identity Verified
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Don't think this is a scam Apr 28, 2013

You perceive it as a spam probably because spam laws are stricter in your country. Here (in India) I routinely receive such mails, and if I am not interested I just ignore them.

And, the agency name and the email address having different endings, again is no conclusive proof that the sender is a scamster. Many mum-and-pop shop type of outsourcers don't have a website and use gmail for their business purposes.

Just ignore the mail if you are not interested or mark it as spam if you don't want further mails from the sender.


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Trudy Peters  Identity Verified
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Agree with Balasubramaniam Apr 28, 2013

How did gmail get such a bad rap? I wouldn't let a gmail address keep me from exploring further. I have several clients who originally approached me via gmail.

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Tony M  Identity Verified
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Gmail's bad rap Apr 28, 2013

Trudy Peters wrote:

How did gmail get such a bad rap?


It's not hard to see, Trudy: 99% of all the scams reported here and elsewhere come from Gmail-type addresses!

Compared with the very low % of 'genuine' enquiries I personally get from Gmail etc. addresses, I'm prepared to use this criterion as the first selection step in my risk management:

Gmail / not Gmail? YES = very high risk, NO = proceed to next step...

One of the things to watch out for is that there are now a whole host of 'free' (and therefore suspicious) e-mail providers using much more plausible domains, like techmail.com, etc. — and some of the more intelligent scammers choose their false company name so that it LOOKS as if it corresponds to the domain name.

All of which should just incite us to be doubly vigilant and (sadly) mistrustful of people who contact us 'cold' until their credentials have been THOROUGHLY checked out.


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Paweł Hamerski
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And now? Apr 28, 2013

Paweł Hamerski wrote:

when your profile here shows DE>EN. If the document is something unique just reply and you willl see.

[Edited at 2013-04-27 15:05 GMT]


Your profile here says German to English not DE>DEN like you say


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Yasdnil1  Identity Verified
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Now I understand Apr 29, 2013

how these scammers get away with it.

Someone approaches you:
- out of the blue, unsolicited
- does not say where or how they got your email address
- do not introduce themselves or ask if you are interested in working with them
- does not give any contact details other than a free email address which can be set up in 2 minutes
- gives no indication of payment timing or method
- supplies documents to translate
- these documents are publicly available
- states a (low) price
- for a language combination you do not provide (I mistyped it above, but I do not provide EN -> DE)

... and some of you think it might be genuine???????

Then all I can say is, expect to be scammed.

Let's place this in the real world. Someone you have never seen before walks into your office, addresses you by your name, thrusts some papers under your nose says "Translate them and send them to this PO Box". Would you just say 'Fine'?

But I still wonder why on earth these people do it.

Lindsay


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Martina Fink  Identity Verified
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Not really Apr 29, 2013

Yasdnil1 wrote:

Someone approaches you:
- out of the blue, unsolicited
- does not say where or how they got your email address
- do not introduce themselves or ask if you are interested in working with them
- does not give any contact details other than a free email address which can be set up in 2 minutes
- gives no indication of payment timing or method
- supplies documents to translate
- these documents are publicly available
- states a (low) price
- for a language combination you do not provide (I mistyped it above, but I do not provide EN -> DE)

... and some of you think it might be genuine???????


People have only said that a gmail address doesn't automatically equal "scammer". I'm sure everyone would agree that an email with all of the above characteristics is most likely a scam.


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