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Thread poster: Olivia ORMSTON

Olivia ORMSTON  Identity Verified
Ireland
Local time: 03:56
Member (2012)
English to French
+ ...
Nov 5, 2013

I have a strange feeling.
I replied to an ad posted on 4/11.
The 'client' replied to me saying that he wanted to work with me. He sent me the file and asked me to check if it was ok for me, to confirm the delivery date and the quote. He is German and his English is not really good.
I replied then I received the following message:
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Thank you for your email. I am having a disability condition which leaves me half paralyzed at the moment but i will be going for my surgery on Thursday. I am not a translator but looking for a translator.This text is a research document for my client and not to be published in anyway. I accept your quote and i am pleased to tell you that i choose you to work on the project. I am making arrangement with my client on the payment so please let me know where you stand.

In your return email, please be inform that my client as choose method of payment for me to go with and i will like you to consider it as my payment method. He will make payment with Money Order,if you will go with me on that please provide me the following for part payment.

Full Name
Full adddress
Direct phone number.

I hope you understand the situation here and comply with the method. I hope to read from you soonest.

Regards
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Sounds strange .....
What do you think ?

Thanks


 

Natalie  Identity Verified
Poland
Local time: 04:56
Member (2002)
English to Russian
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MODERATOR
100% scam Nov 5, 2013

Please contact site staff as soon as possible.

Thank you,
Natalia


 

Walter Landesman  Identity Verified
Uruguay
Local time: 23:56
Member (2005)
English to Spanish
+ ...
SCAM Nov 5, 2013

Smells fishy to me.

 

Olivia ORMSTON  Identity Verified
Ireland
Local time: 03:56
Member (2012)
English to French
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TOPIC STARTER
Thanks Nov 5, 2013

Thanks for your reply.
I have just contacted PROZ.
Olivia


 

Blanca Collazo  Identity Verified
Puerto Rico
Local time: 22:56
English to Spanish
+ ...
scam 100% Nov 5, 2013

Beware of money orders! I fell for one a couple of years ago. At least they were so "nice" they wanted to pay upfront, so I received three postal money orders for the same amount. I got suspicious and showed them to a postmaster who confirmed they were fake.

 

Veronique Mazet
France
Local time: 04:56
English to French
Scam Prohn Gunte Nov 5, 2013

Hello,
The same happens to me and I get the same answer from this guy. For me it's a scam.I wanted to contact proz when I saw this forum. Thanks you confirmed my thoughts.
Véronique


 

Assia SANLIS  Identity Verified
Local time: 04:56
English to French
100 % scam!! Nov 5, 2013

Hello,

I have received a similar message from a German person .
He sent me the document to translate and when I saw it, it was an exact copy as the one I had received previously in another "dodgy" job offer. So I have decided to ignore the whole thing!!


 

Thayenga  Identity Verified
Germany
Local time: 04:56
Member (2009)
English to German
+ ...
Tear-jerker = 100% Scam Nov 6, 2013

A real client would never even mention any disabilities, unless the topic of the translation refers to a specific disability and the client offers him-/herself as a reference source.

Everything else is a guaranteed scam.


 

Flogeff  Identity Verified
Local time: 19:56
English to French
Scam Nov 7, 2013

I almost fell for it as well. I just told the guy that I did not accept Money Orders for payment. I am still waiting for his answer. I was just wondering if the file he sent (in English) could be a hazard (phishing? Trojan Horse?) for computers? For safety I am scanning my entire computer right now.

 

Ameline Pasgrimaud  Identity Verified
France
Local time: 04:56
English to French
What now? Nov 8, 2013

Hello everyone,

I received the same messages from the same person, but with it being my 1st job, I didn't really act on the few suspicions that I had and carried on with the job..

The person actually signed a PO for me, confirming the project and all. Should I simply cut all contact or should I tell him I am withdrawing from the project? ...

Have a nice day!


 

Alejandro Cavalitto
SITE STAFF
The messages he sent carry all the signs of an advanced payment scam Nov 8, 2013

Hello Ameline,

I cannot confirm if this person is a scammer or not, but the messages he sent carry all the signs of an advanced payment scam, as listed on http://www.proz.com/about/translator-scam-alerts/#advance_payment_overpayment_scam . The selected payment method and claiming disabilities (and stating a surgery is scheduled) are dead giveaways of this kind of scam.

If you have started the translation and would rather complete it in order to complete your side of the agreement, there wouldn't be much harm in doing so. Note that it is likely you will receive a payment of more money than agreed upon, and will subsequently be asked to return the extra to an associate of the outsourcer. If that happens, you will know beyond doubt that this was a scam.

On another note, welcome to ProZ.com and site forums! I hope this reply helps. If you need help about anything you can post in the forums or submit a support request to contact site staff directly.

Best regards,
Alejandro


 

Françoise Vogel  Identity Verified
Local time: 04:56
English to French
+ ...
well known scam Nov 8, 2013

... Just cut any contact.

[Edited at 2013-11-08 20:58 GMT]


 

philgoddard
United States
Member (2009)
German to English
+ ...
. Nov 8, 2013

I don't agree with Alejandro that there would be "no harm" in finishing the job. It would be a complete waste of your time.

I wouldn't even bother telling this guy you're not doing the job. He's so busy scamming other people he won't even notice, and the normal rules of courtesy don't apply to people like him.


 

Tomás Cano Binder, BA, CT  Identity Verified
Spain
Local time: 04:56
Member (2005)
English to Spanish
+ ...
SCAM! Nov 9, 2013

The mention of an uncommon condition that makes it impossible for him to pay you directly and that someone else is paying is a clear sign of scam. The idea behind mentioning a severe ilness, accident, robbery, kidnapping, or sudden attack of syphilis is to call upon your good heart and cooperate. Simple mental mechanics!

Cease all contact. Good luck!


 

Hepburn  Identity Verified
France
Local time: 04:56
English to French
+ ...
Got it too a couple of hours ago! Nov 9, 2013

Hi,

Well, I found it strange that in the first mail I got the text to be translated. I found the text on the Internet...
Then I got a second message :

"I am not a translator but looking for a translator.This text is a research document for my client and not to be published in anyway. I accept your rate and i am pleased to tell you that i choose you to work on the project for delivery next week. I am making arrangement with my client on the payment so please let me know where you stand.

In your return email, please be inform that my client as choose method of payment for me to go with and i will like you to consider it as my payment method. He will make payment with Money Order,if you will go with me on that please provide me the following for part payment.



Full Name

Full address

Direct phone number.



I hope you understand the situation here and comply with the method. I hope to read from you soonest.



Regards"
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No signature
It immediately smelt like spam although I had replied to the first mail (equally unsigned).

Too bad! the legal text sounded interesting.

Claudette Hepburn


 
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