Scam job offer?
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Mohd Hamzah  Identity Verified
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Aug 29, 2016

Dear fellow translators/freelancers,

Any comment about this type of job offer? Email writing with very pretty words equipped with such a real employment agreement almost the same with our signed NDA/s.

Appreciate your sharing in this regards. Thanks

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"Dear xxxxxx xxxx,

On behalf of xxxxxxx, I am pleased to inform you that you are offered the position set out in the attached contract of employment and hope that you will accept this offer. The attached contract of employment sets forth the regulations and conditions of your employment with xxxxxxxx.

Please review the contract of employment and, if you agree to the specified regulations and conditions of this employment; please print out the contract letter and sign on the last page and return to myself for further information on how to secure the xxxxx clearance certificate.

Please be informed that there will be an on-the-job training for employees joining us from outside the xxx, job descriptions, duties, tasks, responsibilities and company know-how will be made known to you thereof.

It is with great pleasure that we extend our offer of employment to you and very much look forward to working with you.

Best regards,

Mrs xxxxx xxxxxx
HR
company name xxx
city xxx, country xxxx
Phone: xxxxxx


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Soonthon LUPKITARO(Ph.D.)  Identity Verified
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Most probable Aug 29, 2016

Mohd Hamzah wrote:

Dear fellow translators/freelancers,

Any comment about this type of job offer? Email writing with very pretty words equipped with such a real employment agreement almost the same with our signed NDA/s.

Appreciate your sharing in this regards. Thanks

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Please review the contract of employment and, if you agree to the specified regulations and conditions of this employment; please print out the contract letter and sign on the last page and return to myself for further information on how to secure the xxxxx clearance certificate.

Please be informed that there will be an on-the-job training for employees joining us from outside the xxx, job descriptions, duties, tasks, responsibilities and company know-how will be made known to you thereof.

Mrs xxxxx xxxxxx
HR
company name xxx
city xxx, country xxxx
Phone: xxxxxx


I just catch the word "Dear fellow translators/freelancers,". It is not specific.
Please do not forget that internet based transaction is free of costs. If you are hit, you are unlikely to recover your losses.
Certain websites collect words of scam extensively.

In my bitter experiences, I took plenty of time to solve the situations of scam. I always remind of the word "too good to be true."

Soonthon L.


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Mohd Hamzah  Identity Verified
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It was from me Aug 29, 2016

"Dear fellow translators/freelancers"

they were my words.


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Tomás Cano Binder, BA, CT  Identity Verified
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Absurd Aug 29, 2016

So how would a company send you an employment agreemend out of the blue, without even meeting you, and without seeing your CV or qualifications? It does not make any sense, therefore it is scam.

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Katarzyna Slowikova  Identity Verified
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Just curious Aug 29, 2016

Tomás Cano Binder, CT wrote:

So how would a company send you an employment agreemend out of the blue, without even meeting you, and without seeing your CV or qualifications? It does not make any sense, therefore it is scam.


Sure, it's a scam. But what do they really want? Maybe the content of the "agreement" would shed some light on it? (dont' understand the part "real employment agreement almost the same with our signed NDA/s" ... whose NDA, signed by whom?)


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Kay-Viktor Stegemann
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DO NOT OPEN the attachment! Aug 29, 2016

Katarzyna Slowikova wrote:

Tomás Cano Binder, CT wrote:

So how would a company send you an employment agreemend out of the blue, without even meeting you, and without seeing your CV or qualifications? It does not make any sense, therefore it is scam.


Sure, it's a scam. But what do they really want? Maybe the content of the "agreement" would shed some light on it? (dont' understand the part "real employment agreement almost the same with our signed NDA/s" ... whose NDA, signed by whom?)


NOOOOOOOOO!!!

They want only one thing: They want you to open the attachment in order to infect your computer with malware. This is the ONLY purpose of this email.

So please DO NOT open the attachment.

It's always the same. You receive a strange mail from someone that tells you some more or less likely story, luring, baiting or threatening you into opening the attachment. And in the attachment, there's the malware. Even if it looks like a harmless PDF, word or zip file.

They count on your curiosity. DELETE this thing and forget it.


[Edited at 2016-08-29 08:48 GMT]

[Edited at 2016-08-29 10:38 GMT]


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Sheila Wilson  Identity Verified
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Absurd even for a scam Aug 29, 2016

Tomás Cano Binder, CT wrote:
So how would a company send you an employment agreemend out of the blue, without even meeting you, and without seeing your CV or qualifications? It does not make any sense, therefore it is scam.


I love the fact that you don't get to know the "job description, duties, tasks and responsibilities" until after you've signed the contract and are into training!

The scam will be disclosed as part of the instructions on how to obtain the clearance certificate. That will no doubt be very expensive - and utterly worthless, of course. They will remind you that you've already signed a contract. Some people will feel trapped then and afraid of being taken to court.

Scum of the earth!


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Philippe Etienne  Identity Verified
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What they want Aug 29, 2016

Katarzyna Slowikova wrote:

Tomás Cano Binder, CT wrote:

So how would a company send you an employment agreemend out of the blue, without even meeting you, and without seeing your CV or qualifications? It does not make any sense, therefore it is scam.


Sure, it's a scam. But what do they really want? Maybe the content of the "agreement" would shed some light on it? (dont' understand the part "real employment agreement almost the same with our signed NDA/s" ... whose NDA, signed by whom?)

Money, of course.
They want you to open the attachment and boom, something will infect your computer. Weapons like ransomware will encrypt all your hard drive and to be able to access it again, you will have to pay a ransom to release the content with an uncrypting key. Or not.

Philippe


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Mohd Hamzah  Identity Verified
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Adecco is beeing used Aug 29, 2016

The job scammers tried to use Adecco name and some cases were already happened in several countries. They even contacted me via such strange email (not @Adecco) but xxxx12345@gmail.com, the most interesting thing was, I didn't know earlier.

I managed to contact Adecco and this is their reply:


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"The ADECCO name and trademark are being used in several countries by persons who are in no way related to the Adecco Group. These persons place job adverts on general market websites or send unsolicited e-mails using the name 'Adecco' without our permission. We also have reason to believe that e-mails, letter, telephone calls and other actions taken by these persons are nothing but illegitimate attempts to obtain money and access to job seekers' personal and confidential information.

From the information reported, it appears that this is such a fraud attempt. Ms. xxxxxx is not part of Adecco colleagues.

We then strongly recommend that you:

- Do not answer to this e-mail;
- Do not provide any personal information or documents to this person;
- Do not pay any fees in any concept to this person;
- Do not open any links included in the e-mails.

Finally, please be aware that NO Adecco representative will ever request payment of any kind from a candidate or an associate during a job search or a selection process.

Thanks for reporting this issue, I am available if you need any information.

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"Case closed" apart of searching for translation job, this piece of knowledge is very useful to me in order to be more matured in this freelancing industry. Thanks to you all.


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Mirko Mainardi  Identity Verified
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Just out of curiosity... Aug 29, 2016

Mohd Hamzah wrote:

On behalf of xxxxxxx, I am pleased to inform you that you are offered the position set out in the attached contract of employment and hope that you will accept this offer. The attached contract of employment sets forth the regulations and conditions of your employment with xxxxxxxx.



Could you scan that attachment (zip, pdf ... ?) on Virustotal?


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Katarzyna Slowikova  Identity Verified
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I have no title for my reply... or do I? Aug 29, 2016

Mirko Mainardi wrote:

Mohd Hamzah wrote:

On behalf of xxxxxxx, I am pleased to inform you that you are offered the position set out in the attached contract of employment and hope that you will accept this offer. The attached contract of employment sets forth the regulations and conditions of your employment with xxxxxxxx.



Could you scan that attachment (zip, pdf ... ?) on Virustotal?


I understood Mohd already opened the attachment since he seems to (?) talk about its contents...
The possibility that they require money for the "certificate" seems to be quite sophisticated for those @^#&... but who knows. It's better not too be too curious and stay out of the harm's way.


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Mohd Hamzah  Identity Verified
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Thanks Mirko Aug 29, 2016

I have run the file in the suggested website and the result is: Probably harmless! There are strong indicators suggesting that this file is safe to use.

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Klaus Baumann
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Beware of viruses Sep 4, 2016

The attachment might be infected, better don't open it

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