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Sebastian Pasiminio Hernandez  Identity Verified
Canada
Local time: 11:31
Member (Mar 2019)
English to Spanish
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Oct 29

Hello, everyone.

I've been visiting the forums for a while, but I still feel sort of new around here because I only started using ProZ in depth this year.

After receiving an email with a translation proposal from a non-registered user and exchanging some emails, I decided to check with a colleague (also a member here) and search the forums. I read several posts about scams as well as visited the ...
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Hello, everyone.

I've been visiting the forums for a while, but I still feel sort of new around here because I only started using ProZ in depth this year.

After receiving an email with a translation proposal from a non-registered user and exchanging some emails, I decided to check with a colleague (also a member here) and search the forums. I read several posts about scams as well as visited the Translator scam alert center. I'm glad I did.

Some details bothered me from the beginning and some research told me I wasn't just being paranoid. By now, they might seem obvious for some of you, but I still wanted to share this to help newbies like me (or whoever is not aware how this people operate.)

Here's the exchange...



  • 1. "A ProZ.com user visited your ProZ.com profile and sent the following message.

    Author: Shann
    [NOTE: The author is not a registered ProZ.com user or was not logged in when sending this message.]
    Author's IP address: 176.113.74.236

    -----------

    Hello, I have a presentation in 4 weeks time can you help in
    translating documents am using for it. Thanks"

  • 2. "Hello, Shann.

    If you could please send me the documents, I could take a look and give you an estimate of the time and cost.

    Best,

    Sebastian"

  • 3. "Thanks for getting back to me.
    I will like you to translate some document from English to Spanish. I already attached the document so you can view and send me your proforma invoice/charges."

  • 4. "Here is the document attached"

  • 5. "Hi, Shann.

    Please find attached the invoice.

    I would also like to discuss some specifications about the project. Would you care to share me some contact information?

    Thank you.

    Best regards,

    Sebastian"

  • 6. "Thanks for getting back I will make a payment through bank transfer or send a cashier check, please provide information to any of them.
    Bank Name
    Account number
    Bank Address
    Name on account

    Or

    Full names and Address to receive a Cashier Check"



I haven't replied since then. Didn't give any bank information. The refusal to provide any information besides their email address (denimator12@gmail.com) was the last sign for me.

From what I've read, what happens next, if you give them those details, is that they transfer you an incorrect amount and ask you to return the extra sum. If you do, their transfer gets reversed some days later and you end up losing money and being contacted by your bank and the police.

I'd rather have the opposite happen to the scammer, so I was thinking about contacting my bank and the police, but I don't know if it really makes sense. Any advice on how to proceed?
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Marjolein Snippe  Identity Verified
Netherlands
Local time: 17:31
Member (2012)
English to Dutch
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Move on Oct 29

Unfortunately, these scams are very common. Police are unlikely to do anything, but if it makes you feel better, you can always report it.
There are several posts here about scams like this one; see for instance all the advice given in this post:
https://www.proz.com/forum/scams/336674-concern_about_a_possible_scam_ive_gotten_
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Unfortunately, these scams are very common. Police are unlikely to do anything, but if it makes you feel better, you can always report it.
There are several posts here about scams like this one; see for instance all the advice given in this post:
https://www.proz.com/forum/scams/336674-concern_about_a_possible_scam_ive_gotten_involved_in-page2.html

Glad you discovered this one in time!
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Sebastian Pasiminio Hernandez  Identity Verified
Canada
Local time: 11:31
Member (Mar 2019)
English to Spanish
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TOPIC STARTER
Sounds good Oct 29

After reading the post you shared and some other ones (and even checking with my bank), I agree that the best is to move on after having warned others. There isn't much the banks or the police can do with these scammers besides giving people advice on how to prevent fraud.

Lucky me for finding this community sharing their experiences and helping each other!

Thank you.


 

Lara Coons
United States
Local time: 11:31
English to Chinese
+ ...
Scam Shaan Oct 31

I am glad that I checked this forum I got the same email . And this scammer logged in through translated cafe and ip showing Canada

 

Sebastian Pasiminio Hernandez  Identity Verified
Canada
Local time: 11:31
Member (Mar 2019)
English to Spanish
+ ...
TOPIC STARTER
Phew... Nov 1

Glad to hear that. It also showed an IP in Montreal for me.

 


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