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Michael Newton  Identity Verified
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Did this happen before Nov 20, 2019

PO's in the US of A work fine and are legal contracts should I need to chase the client in Small Claims Court. I have contracts from several clients in Italy and when I hit them up for payment, I make sure I remind them "il pagamento come promesso nel contratto e dovuto il 15 di novembre, cioe, oggi." This works. PO/contracts are also insurance policies should I need to shame the company on the Blue Board ("company did not comply with its own purchase order/contract).

 

Laurent Mercky
France
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Chinese to French
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Do not worry Nov 21, 2019

Iuliana Ilasca wrote:

I am just starting to work as a freelance translator and I think this makes me easy prey. Thank you very much for your answer. I will be more careful from now on.


En fait, le RIB ne donne aucun droit d'accès aux opérations sur votre compte, au pire un RIB donne le droit à autrui à vous faire un versement financier.
Mais justement, faites attention malgré tout à ce que vous ne vous retrouviez pas avec un montant inconnu et anormal sur votre compte, surtout de la part de cette agence.


 

Iuliana Ilasca  Identity Verified
France
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She responded Nov 21, 2019

This morning she sent me an email telling me that the payment has been done and I should receive it shortly. I don't know what to do now...
What would you advise me to do? Just wait and see if I receive it or tell her not to bother anymore?


 

Béatrice Marchix
France
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English to French
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DO NOT REPLY TO 'MELANIE LANDON" Nov 21, 2019

Hi,

I had the same e-mail as you Luliana, this person from Romania is made her called "Melanie Landon" . This is scam, DO NOT REPLY TO THIS PERSON.

She asked me the same as you, to translate 15 pages form English to French, telling me she will send me half of the payment very quickly on my bank account. I send her my bank account details 6th November, but I asked for more details about her company, what was the purpose of the job. Of course, she never replied to these q
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Hi,

I had the same e-mail as you Luliana, this person from Romania is made her called "Melanie Landon" . This is scam, DO NOT REPLY TO THIS PERSON.

She asked me the same as you, to translate 15 pages form English to French, telling me she will send me half of the payment very quickly on my bank account. I send her my bank account details 6th November, but I asked for more details about her company, what was the purpose of the job. Of course, she never replied to these questions. I have also asked for an invoice but never received it. The next morning I told her that I was not interested into "her translation jobs" but she is still sending me emails from time to time. Still, this morning she is telling me the same, she will send me a payment and so on...
Can anyone here exclude to person using proz ?

Hope it can help

Béatrice
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Lefort Julie
 

Paweł Hamerski
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You are not losing anything by waiting, Nov 21, 2019

so...

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Sheila Wilson  Identity Verified
Spain
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Tell her that you can't proceed until you've received it. Nov 21, 2019

Iuliana Ilasca wrote:
This morning she sent me an email telling me that the payment has been done and I should receive it shortly. I don't know what to do now...
What would you advise me to do? Just wait and see if I receive it or tell her not to bother anymore?

It still sounds like a scam, as that's what happens in them.

You could simply ignore the email. Have you checked other discussions on this forum and the information in the Scam Centre? And have you searched for the text online? If you can get clear 100% proof that it's a scam, that's clearly the way to go.

If you can't prove it's a scam, you might feel happier replying that you need to wait for the payment to arrive before you start work. That puts back the deadline. Then check your bank account daily and see what happens. If a very large sum arrives, tell your bank to reject it. If it's for the right amount and the bank are happy, then I suppose you can go ahead and deliver. That's unlikely to be the scenario, TBH.


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Katarzyna Slowikova  Identity Verified
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Do all the checks you skipped at the beginning Nov 22, 2019

Iuliana Ilasca wrote:

This morning she sent me an email telling me that the payment has been done and I should receive it shortly. I don't know what to do now...
What would you advise me to do? Just wait and see if I receive it or tell her not to bother anymore?


Have you checked this person's details before you started work? Did you try to google parts of the text to be translated or of the message? If not, do it now, before you answer her. Also read what are the characteristics of a scam email (plenty of info in this forum).

If nothing online indicates it's a scam, I'd answer I'm going to send the translation once the money is there. If you get bigger amount then agreed, it means it's a scam and you should check with your bank how did the money arrive (these scammers sometimes impersonate the account owners to cash a fake cheque).

I also have a gut feeling it's going to develop into an overpayment scam but don't see it's as 100% sure so far, judging from the details you provided.


 

Katarzyna Slowikova  Identity Verified
Germany
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English to Czech
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Some thoughts about the Czech Rep. Nov 22, 2019

Stuart Hoskins wrote:

In the Czech Republic, everyone who registers for VAT has to notify the authorities of their bank account number (to prevent VAT fraud). This information is then kept in a public register with all of your other business details.


Yes, unless you opt out from the public register.


The system has been up and running for several years now and I’ve never heard of any related criminal activity.

I think this is largely because cheques are not really in use in the Czech Republic. And they are the only means (afaik) to get "fake" money into your account. The scammer impersonates the account owner (after getting their account details) and cashes a fake check into his/her account (with the amount far exceeding the agreed payment). Try to do this in a Czech bank and you'll immediately attract attention. Not to mention there're only couple of banks that accept cheques at all.
So not the easiest environment for overpayment scammers.

That being said, some time ago I'd seen something that looked like an overpayment scam attempt in Czech, sent to a Czech agency. I described it in this thread: https://www.proz.com/forum/scams/332882-scam_advance_payment_for_a_large_project_marie_duncan.html#2780188


 

César TORNIER  Identity Verified
France
Local time: 01:01
Member (2019)
English to French
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Same ol' Nov 28, 2019

I almost felt for it as well, same person, same trick.
Today, I received a €10.000 check. OFC it was stolen, I contacted my bank and had a copy of it sent to me. I then contacted the company (specialised in tree cutting) that sent it to me, they knew the check number and said it's far from being the first time someone calls to complain about that particular check.
Seems like the scammers are using the body of the same check everytime, check number is 120.


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IrinaN
United States
Local time: 18:01
English to Russian
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Who received what??? Nov 28, 2019

César TORNIER wrote:

I almost felt for it as well, same person, same trick.
Today, I received a €10.000 check. OFC it was stolen, I contacted my bank and had a copy of it sent to me. I then contacted the company (specialised in tree cutting) that sent it to me, they knew the check number and said it's far from being the first time someone calls to complain about that particular check.
Seems like the scammers are using the body of the same check everytime, check number is 120.


Did you receive an envelope with the check, or was it deposited directly to your bank account?

The only reason I'm curious is to understand if the scammers are now capable of such direct deposits by e-checks.


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Lefort Julie
France
Local time: 01:01
Chinese to French
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SCAM Melanie Landon Dec 19, 2019

Béatrice Marchix wrote:

Hi,

I had the same e-mail as you Luliana, this person from Romania is made her called "Melanie Landon" . This is scam, DO NOT REPLY TO THIS PERSON.

She asked me the same as you, to translate 15 pages form English to French, telling me she will send me half of the payment very quickly on my bank account. I send her my bank account details 6th November, but I asked for more details about her company, what was the purpose of the job. Of course, she never replied to these questions. I have also asked for an invoice but never received it. The next morning I told her that I was not interested into "her translation jobs" but she is still sending me emails from time to time. Still, this morning she is telling me the same, she will send me a payment and so on...
Can anyone here exclude to person using proz ?

Hope it can help

Béatrice


Got the same... very annoying as I had to go the police for this as requiered by the Bank... I hope she/he (who knows!) can get stopped and excluded from Proz.

[Edited at 2019-12-19 15:33 GMT]


 

Katarzyna Slowikova  Identity Verified
Germany
Local time: 01:01
English to Czech
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Some basics on Proz Dec 20, 2019

Lefort Julie wrote:

Béatrice Marchix wrote:

Can anyone here exclude to person using proz ?

Hope it can help

Béatrice


I hope she/he (who knows!) can get stopped and excluded from Proz.

[Edited at 2019-12-19 15:33 GMT]


If this two sentences with "exclude" are referring to banning this person from Proz - they'd have to be a member (i.e. have a profile) in the 1st place. If you got the scam message from a Proz member, there's an easy way to report them to the staff.

However, there's been no mention in this thread of the person being a Proz member, so the messages probably come from not logged-in person, as most scam attempts on Proz do. You can change the settings of your account to not receive any messages from not logged-in people, in this way you'll reduce the number of scam messages coming via Proz to virtually 0.


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