RU>EN translation - no company existence
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Susan Welsh  Identity Verified
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I got an email via Proz from andrei.manski@mindfulday.ru wanting me to translate psychology articles. That domain name does not exist. He says it's because he's starting a new company and doesn't yet have a website. He is not listed at Proz.com. I suspect it's a scam and have declined the offer, but I post it in case it resonates with anybody else.

 

Samuel Murray  Identity Verified
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@Susan Jul 2

Susan Welsh wrote:
I got an email via ProZ.com from andrei.manski@mindfulday.ru wanting me to translate psychology articles. That domain name does not exist. He says it's because he's starting a new company and doesn't yet have a website.


Forgive me for splitting hairs: the domain name *does* exist, but there is no web site at that domain. This is not unusual in itself. I have encountered it before that people register a domain name for e-mail purposes without having a web site at that domain.

Did he provide any contact details? Does he claim to represent a company or is he trying to get translations in his personal capacity?


[Edited at 2020-07-02 13:38 GMT]


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Susan Welsh  Identity Verified
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Thanks, Samuel Jul 2

My error. This may very well be legit, but I'm suspicious, especially after getting three scam job offers in the last six months or so (one of which I fell for).

 

Natalie  Identity Verified
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Hi Susan Jul 2

Could you please provide the IP from the message? This would help to check the logs.

Thank you,
Natalia


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Anton Konashenok  Identity Verified
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Not a problem. Jul 2

I don't think this is suspicious per se. I have had a domain name for e-mail for 14 years, but no web site. I had enough work without one. Now the pandemic has all but killed the market segment I am in, so I am thinking of making one to attract a wider circle of clients.

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Susan Welsh  Identity Verified
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@Natalia - IP address Jul 2

How do I find the IP address (my account is with gmail)? I looked at the "source" but can't figure out what to do with that string of numbers and letters.
//To be clear: he did not post via the Proz site, but said in his email that he got my name from Proz.

[Edited at 2020-07-02 16:47 GMT]


 

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Happens Jul 2

I ran into a few biz contacts with no-website land pages, yet I'm more concerned about those who are writing behalf on the company from corporate emails without working there any longer.

Having a white (static) IP, it's possible to set up even own mailserver like ICQ, Viber, and other software--right on the SDD/HDD. It's possible with a dynamic (gray) IP, but requires much tweaking though.


Susan, you should downloda/save the email as txt first.

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I ran into a few biz contacts with no-website land pages, yet I'm more concerned about those who are writing behalf on the company from corporate emails without working there any longer.

Having a white (static) IP, it's possible to set up even own mailserver like ICQ, Viber, and other software--right on the SDD/HDD. It's possible with a dynamic (gray) IP, but requires much tweaking though.


Susan, you should downloda/save the email as txt first.

Meanwhile, how about a test payment, say, the minimum fee just to make sure?

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IP Jul 2

Susan, please see http://shorturl.at/bgvJ0

You may copy the email headers and send them to me or place here.


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This is where due diligence rather than knee-jerk YES/NO decisions are useful Jul 2

I can't tell you whether he's a scammer or legitimate, but I think he was quite likely a legitimate client. His story tallies with what Samuel found and, unless you know things you haven't shared, there's really nothing to suggest that he's a scammer.

I personally had a contact from a "non-logged-in" source to my ProZ.com profile in late May, from a Gmail address. He gave his first name only and said he'd seen a forum post and would I look at some song lyrics. That was NOT a good s
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I can't tell you whether he's a scammer or legitimate, but I think he was quite likely a legitimate client. His story tallies with what Samuel found and, unless you know things you haven't shared, there's really nothing to suggest that he's a scammer.

I personally had a contact from a "non-logged-in" source to my ProZ.com profile in late May, from a Gmail address. He gave his first name only and said he'd seen a forum post and would I look at some song lyrics. That was NOT a good start. However, when asked to give far more details, it turned out he was totally legit, and I've been collaborating with him all month.

I do hope you'll inform yourself about all the potential clues pointing to a scam, and all the measures you can take to check out potentially legitimate (or not) clients. The former is done by checking out this forum and the Scam Centre and signing up for notifications from there. The latter is done by Googling for measures related to "due diligence" and "risk management".
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Received Jul 2

Hi Susan,

I have received the headers, thank you. i'll analyze them and will post the results.

Natalia

[Edited at 2020-07-02 18:19 GMT]


 

Natalie  Identity Verified
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The email has been really sent from Moscow via Yandex Jul 2

The address hasn't been hidden or spoofed.

That's all, actually.


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Susan Welsh  Identity Verified
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Natalie Jul 2

Thanks!

 

Noura Tawil  Identity Verified
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Susan Jul 3

When faced with similar situations (the client is not registered or it's not possible to check their legitimacy) I usually ask for 100% advance payment or a down payment via PayPal, depending on the size of the job.
I also refer them to my WWA page (Feedback from my clients, which is publicly displayed on Proz and accessibleby non-members) so they can also check my own legitimacy.


 

Daryo
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the MINDFULDAY.RU domain name *is* registered Jul 8

with a registrar in Russia to a "private person" - same as in UK you don't need to put ANY personal information when you register a .co.uk domain name as your personal / private domain name.

Which doesn't stop many UK businesses [that are no more or no less "scammers" than your usual / average business ...] from registering .co.uk domain name that are more than obviously being used for business as "personal" (without giving any more details).

I would be fa
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with a registrar in Russia to a "private person" - same as in UK you don't need to put ANY personal information when you register a .co.uk domain name as your personal / private domain name.

Which doesn't stop many UK businesses [that are no more or no less "scammers" than your usual / average business ...] from registering .co.uk domain name that are more than obviously being used for business as "personal" (without giving any more details).

I would be far more worried about the fact that your potential client is from another country - even with the most "real" companies if they turn out to be bad payers it's a proper nightmare trying to chase your money from someone in the other end of the world.
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