Black frame around target segment in Trados Studio 2009
Thread poster: Artem Vakhitov

Artem Vakhitov  Identity Verified
Estonia
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Apr 25, 2011

Hi all,

after accidentally pressing some key combination I don't remember, I now have a black frame around one target segment with no obvious reference as to what it is or way to delete it.

Any clues?


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Tapsa
Local time: 05:36
English to Finnish
Me too Apr 26, 2011

I have had this same issue too. In my case it was a little bit wrong key combination for special characters with alt or accidentally alt gr and some key in number pad (don't rember which and if num lock was on).

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Deolindo  Identity Verified
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Make it three Apr 26, 2011

Had the same odd thing happening to me while in the middle of a very big project. Question is: what influence will it have on the final product?

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Soonthon LUPKITARO(Ph.D.)  Identity Verified
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No effects? Apr 26, 2011

I met with many of these events. Even in a big project, I found that it had no effect at all. But I cannot explain why and what it is. Can Trados Gmbh tell us? Another program bug?

Soonthon Lupkitaro


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xxxTransdiction
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Mysterious black frame to be used as bookmark or flag May 6, 2011

So far it doesn't appear to have any effect at all on the final product.

I was wondering if it could be used as a sort of "bookmark" or "flagging" function (like in Deja Vu) to help me keep track of where I'd like to arrive at for the day. To make it useful for this purpose the border would have to be wider and the colour should be brighter.

Just a suggestion.


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István Hirsch  Identity Verified
Local time: 04:36
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Press news May 8, 2011

I think you pressed (left) Alt + (left) Shift + 2 ( numpad). This creates a black frame around the target segment.
Then if you press/hold down Alt + Shift + Up/Down you can extend a gold coloured selection up or down starting from the frame, which selection is otherwise the first step of any batch procedure.
Now if you click on the selected area or press up/down/left/right arrow, the frame and the gold selected area disappear (the segments remain, of course).


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Tom Tyson  Identity Verified
Local time: 03:36
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Thanks Sep 14, 2011

The box is irritating when it appears - so thanks Istvan for the fix. I've come here on two occasions now from Google to find your advice (bad memory!) and though it about time I acknowledged your help.

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Jerzy Czopik  Identity Verified
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Black frame = segment selected Sep 14, 2011

Press (left) ALT+SPACE, you select a segment.
Now press ALT+ARROW DOWN for next (or up for previous) segment.
You have selected those segments - now you can merge them.
Of course those shortcuts apply, if you use the default settings - otherwise your adapted shortucts apply.
Merging segments is possible as usual only if all necessary conditions are met.
This way you can select several segments (consequent pressing of ALT+ARROW selects segment by sxegment) to merge them using only keyboard, without having to use the mouse.

So please tell me know what is irritating or annoying with that box?


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jaskol
Local time: 04:36
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Super, Jerzy Mar 10, 2012

Thanks!

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Deolindo  Identity Verified
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Thanks, István Mar 21, 2012

I had this problem again after nearly one year. I came back here and found your solution. Though it doesn't affect your final product it is annoying indeed.

Thanks again.

D


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Jerzy Czopik  Identity Verified
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It is not annoying... Mar 21, 2012

as this shows you that the segment has been selected and thus allowing you to know where you start merging segments or where your selection for changing segment status starts.

To use an analogy it would also be annoying, if you would hear the sound of your motor in the car you drive. No sound = no drive, so even in the most luxury cars with piston motors some sound isn't annoying at all


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Dr. Matthias Schauen  Identity Verified
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This shortcut combination is not optimal Mar 21, 2012

Jerzy, of course it is annoying, as long as you don't know what this frame signifies. So without your help, it would still annoy me.
But I have to say that since the Alt key and the space bar are directly adjacent, there is a considerable and foreseeable risk that this combination is pressed by accident. To modify your analogy, this is like having a small button to lower the windows of your car somewhere on the outer perimeter of your steering wheel. Sure it is nice to have this button, but now and then you will accidentally lower the windows while parallel parking. (Also, if you don't know that this button exists, you will wonder why the windows go down, because you didn't notice that you pressed it by accident. I would imagine this to be quite annoying.)


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Jerzy Czopik  Identity Verified
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Change the shortcut then Mar 21, 2012

Tools - Options - Keyboard Shortcuts

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Nuri Razi
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It worked for me, too! Dec 18, 2012

Thank you Istvan, it worked for me as well.

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Ridha Harwan
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Thank you sooo muccchhhh...... from 2015 Mar 23, 2015

István Hirsch wrote:

I think you pressed (left) Alt + (left) Shift + 2 ( numpad). This creates a black frame around the target segment.
Then if you press/hold down Alt + Shift + Up/Down you can extend a gold coloured selection up or down starting from the frame, which selection is otherwise the first step of any batch procedure.
Now if you click on the selected area or press up/down/left/right arrow, the frame and the gold selected area disappear (the segments remain, of course).

Mr. István Hirsch, thank you from the year of 2015. hahahaha


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