Trados 6.5: Concordance not working right Thread poster: Hanne Frederiksen
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I have a problem with the concordance search. When I mark up a word for the search, Trados returns with "No concordance found", even though I know that the exact word (or more often words) are in the memory. This happens in about 40% of the search cases. I recently went from Trados 5.0 to 6.5 (freelance). How is it possible that the software cannot execute such a totally simple task ?
| | | | Ralf Lemster 
Germany
Local time: 15:34
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| Try lowering the minimum match value | Jun 22, 2004 |
Hi Hanne,
IIRC the default minimum match value (Options - Translation Memory Options - Concordance) is set to 60 or 70 percent. I tend to use a much lower value (e.g. 30%); although this gives me some more "noise" in concordance searches, I usually find what I'm looking for.
This is also a mathematical issue: if you use a value greater than, say, 50%, you won't get any hits on an expression of two words unless both words can be identified.
HTH, Ralf
| | | | | TM too large, old tm database version or reorganisation needed | Jun 22, 2004 |
Hello,
- try to reorganise your TM,
- check the database version of the TM (maybe try to make a new TM and import the old translation units)
- take a look on the number of translationunits. TMs with more than approx. 100.000 TUs can be problematic.
Regards
Hans
| | | | | Yes, but .... | Jun 22, 2004 |
Hi Ralf,
I understand what you mean, and I will try to lower the limit from the current 70%. But I still find it odd that the software cannot find words that are not 98% exact, but a 100% match !
Thanks a lot for your help anyway !
Hanne
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Ralf Lemster
Germany
Local time: 15:34
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| Are you looking for terms or phrases? | Jun 22, 2004 |
Hi again,
I'm not sure if I fully understand your problem here...
I understand what you mean, and I will try to lower the limit from the current 70%. But I still find it odd that the software cannot find words that are not 98% exact, but a 100% match !
Why would you need a concordance search for a segment that provides a 100% match? Or are you looking for terms?
Best regards, Ralf
| | | | | Looking for terms... | Jun 22, 2004 |
Hi Ralf,
Sorry, I didn't make myself very clear. Yes, I am looking for terms, not entire segments. I have several Trados memories, and the one I am working on right now only consists of about 5,000 units.
Hanne
| | | | Ralf Lemster
Germany
Local time: 15:34
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Hi again,
You may want to consider using MultiTerm for terminology. Having said that, I regularly use the Concordance function to search for single terms.
If you like, you can send me an export of your TM, with a list of some terms you're looking for. Contact me through my profile to get my e-mail address if you like.
Best regards,
Ralf
| | | | | A reference memory defined? | Jun 22, 2004 |
Hi,
I have noticed that when I set up a reference memory and check the option "Search first in reference translation memory" in Translation Memory Options, then I am getting often not so close or hardly useful results. Though there are 100% or pretty close matches in the primary TM.
Regards,
Romuald
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Ralf Lemster
Germany
Local time: 15:34
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| Reference TM | Jun 22, 2004 |
Good point, Romuald!
Incidentally, we were discussing this in the course of an informal training session yesterday. Many users assume that by specifying a reference TM in the Concordance options they will get a parallel search in both TMs. Unfortunately, this is not the case - here's an overview of the behaviour (assuming a reference TM has been specified):
If Search first in reference TM is inactive:
- concordance search will start with the a... See more Good point, Romuald!
Incidentally, we were discussing this in the course of an informal training session yesterday. Many users assume that by specifying a reference TM in the Concordance options they will get a parallel search in both TMs. Unfortunately, this is not the case - here's an overview of the behaviour (assuming a reference TM has been specified):
If Search first in reference TM is inactive:
- concordance search will start with the active TM;
- if there is a search result in the active TM, the concordance search will stop;
- if there is no search result in the active TM, the search will continue in the reference TM.
If Search first in reference TM is active:
- concordance search will start with the reference TM;
- if there is a search result in the reference TM, the concordance search will stop;
- if there is no search result in the reference TM, the search will continue in the active TM.
HTH - best regards, Ralf ▲ Collapse
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