Upgrading to Trados 2011 from Trados 2009
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I have been using Trados 2009 for years, and now I have clients saying I need 2011 to carry out their projects as they say there are compatibility issues between 2009 and 2011 files (see posts from other colleagues on this forum).

They say I should consider upgrading but I don't want to lose Trados 2009. I'd rather have both Trados 2009 and Trados 2011. Would that be possible if I upgrade to 2011 or do I need to buy another full package for Trados 2011?

Exactly, how does the upgrading work? Is there a file I should download that checks online the previous version of Trados and replaces some of the old files with the new ones? Or is some sort of license upgrading, so that with the 2011 license the software prompt me to download the package to migrate to Trados 2011?

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[Edited at 2012-06-28 09:33 GMT]


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Enrico C - ECLC  Identity Verified
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Upgrading Jun 28, 2012


Exactly, how does the upgrading work? Is there a file I should download that checks online the previous version of Trados and replaces some of the old files with the new ones? Or is some sort of license upgrading, so that with the 2011 license the software prompt me to download the package to migrate to Trados 2011?


Hi Paola,

I won't bother you with technical explanations. The answer to your question is YES you can keep also 2007 with Studio 2009 and Studio 2011 in the same PC and retain your licenses. At least this is my experience as far as i can recall. I bought Trados 2007 years ago, then was an early adopter of Studio 2009 and since 2009 had quite a few bugs, when 2011 came on the market i bought it. In my case i didn't have to download any file in terms of license. Your license is stored inside your SDL account, (as it should be for 2009). So when you buy 2011, you get a brand new copy of 2011 which will install in a different directory from 2009 and will have a different license. So i am now working with 3 software: Trados 2007, Studio 2009 and Studio 2011. I don't know if in the meantime SDL's rules regarding this have changed or if there are different technical procedures (I was an early adopter of 2011, too). LICENSES: I am in doubt here. I entered the MY LICENSES section in my SDL account and found out they are all messed up. I seem to only have the one for Trados 2007 and the one for Studio 2011 while the one for Studio 2009 is missing (or shared with 2011????). However, Studio 2009 is licensed as well and the 3 of them all work properly.

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Enrico


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The technical explanation ;-) Jun 28, 2012

Hi both,

If you have SDL Trados 2007 Suite and SDL Trados Studio 2009 and wish to gain a copy of SDL Trados 2011 then you have two options.

1. Upgrade from 2009 to 2011
2. Purchase a new license for 2011

The difference is this. When you upgrade you are effectively paying less for the software and are replacing your old one with the new one. So in your licenses section of the "My Account" you will find that 2007 and 2009 licenses change into 2007 and 2011 licenses. The effect of this is that whilst 2009 will continue to work (as long as you don't return your 2009 license as part of the upgrade process) if you lose your license at any time you will not be entitled to recover it.

If you purchase a new license then you are effectively buying another version of the software. So in your licenses section you will see the 2007 and 2009 licenses are added to and you will end up with 2007, 2009 and 2011 licenses of the software.

In terms of the software itself. Whether you upgrade or purchase a new license to get to 2011 the installation process is the same and you can run the applications independently of each other. So it is perfectly feasible to have 2007, 2009 and 2011 all running on the same machine.

The only exception to this is MultiTerm where you should uninstall MultiTerm 2009 and install 2011. MultiTerm 2011 will work with SDL Trados 2007, Studio 2009 and Studio 2011.

I hope this explains it?

Regards

Paul

[Edited at 2012-06-28 06:15 GMT]


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SDL Support wrote:
The effect of this is that whilst 2009 will continue to work (as long as you don't return your 2009 license as part of the upgrade process) if you lose your license at any time you will not be entitled to recover it.



So, if Enrico formats his computer, he will no longer be able to install Trados 2009?
That's clear it!


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Correct Jun 28, 2012

Paola Slajmer wrote:

So, if Enrico formats his computer, he will no longer be able to install Trados 2009?
That's clear it!


But he will be able to install 2007 and 2011 and these are the software applications he is licensed for.

Regards

Paul


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I had not.... Jun 28, 2012

Paola Slajmer wrote:

SDL Support wrote:
The effect of this is that whilst 2009 will continue to work (as long as you don't return your 2009 license as part of the upgrade process) if you lose your license at any time you will not be entitled to recover it.



So, if Enrico formats his computer, he will no longer be able to install Trados 2009?
That's clear it!



...forecasted such a scenario. I shifted on another PC last year. Returned the license from old PC, installed 2009 on the new one and reactivated it on the new PC. I can't recall if i already had 2011 or not though. But Paul's theory does have its logics. It doesn't make me happier but it had its logics.

Thanks Paul


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Lou SHEN
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2011 upgrade version Aug 22, 2012

May I follow this question:

I have trados 2009 licence and recently "upgraded" to 2011.
I don't understand why now I have 2009 and 2011 at the same time...I would prefer that the upgrade download rewrites 2009.

Now the question: I want to reformat my PC. After that, can I just install 2011 without 2009, or should I install first 2009 then 2011 since what I bought is an upgrade version?

Thanks in advance for your kind reply.


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Lorenzo Bermejo
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Hsing-ju SHEN wrote:

May I follow this question:

I have trados 2009 licence and recently "upgraded" to 2011.
I don't understand why now I have 2009 and 2011 at the same time...I would prefer that the upgrade download rewrites 2009.

Now the question: I want to reformat my PC. After that, can I just install 2011 without 2009, or should I install first 2009 then 2011 since what I bought is an upgrade version?

Thanks in advance for your kind reply.


hi Hsing-ju,
your question has been already answered by Paul in his post above:
if you reformat your PC, you will no longer be able to activate Studio 2009, if you've upgraded to Studio 2011 and not bought a separate licence for it. in such a case, you will only be able to activate Studio 2011.

kind regards


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It's not a "technical" upgrade Aug 22, 2012

Hi,

The upgrade refers to your licensing, so by upgrading you replace 2009 with 2011. But the installation is a separate product and they run side by side. You do not need 2009 to be installed if you only wish to run 2011.

In fact if you reformat your PC you won't be able to license 2009 any more, so there is little point in installing it.

Just install 2011.

Regards

Paul


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You have one license only, and it's for Trados 2011 Aug 22, 2012

Hsing-ju SHEN wrote:

Now the question: I want to reformat my PC. After that, can I just install 2011 without 2009, or should I install first 2009 then 2011 since what I bought is an upgrade version?


No, it doesn't work like that.
If you reformat, you will be able to install Trados 2011 only, as explained above.

You don't own 2 licenses, you own one and you upgraded it to 2011. That was your choice, so now you're left with 2011, only.

[you have 2009 and 2011 installed as the upgrade cannot remove the old 2009, but you won't be able to install 2009 again]


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thanks! Aug 22, 2012

Ok thanks a lot! That's clear for me now!

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2 PCs scenario Dec 11, 2012

Hi Paul and colleagues,

I'm upgrading to Studio 2011, and I have 2009 installed on 2 PCs.

If I install 2011 on my main PC, should I install it on the second PC too? If I understand well your explanations, Studio 2009 will keep on working on the second PC (and on main PC too).
The license for Studio 2011 is exactly the same as for Studio 2009 (same code)?

I am currently finishing a project on 2009, should I end this project before installing Studio 2011?

Thanks a lot for any reply!
Gianni


SDL Support wrote:

Hi,

The upgrade refers to your licensing, so by upgrading you replace 2009 with 2011. But the installation is a separate product and they run side by side. You do not need 2009 to be installed if you only wish to run 2011.

In fact if you reformat your PC you won't be able to license 2009 any more, so there is little point in installing it.

Just install 2011.

Regards

Paul


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Upgrading means replacing the old license with a new one, but it's always for one product only Dec 11, 2012

2G Trad wrote:

I'm upgrading to Studio 2011


If you are upgrading, you'll end up with one license for SDL Studio 2011, only.
If I am not wrong, it allows for 2 installs on 2 different computer.


Please note that you don't need to remove SDL Studio 2009 to install 2011.

The point is that you won't be able to reinstall 2009 again.

[Edited at 2012-12-11 14:47 GMT]


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Download of the upgrade version Studio 2011 - but I cannot install it Jan 26, 2013

SDL Support wrote:

Hi both,

If you have SDL Trados 2007 Suite and SDL Trados Studio 2009 and wish to gain a copy of SDL Trados 2011 then you have two options.

1. Upgrade from 2009 to 2011
2. Purchase a new license for 2011

The difference is this. When you upgrade you are effectively paying less for the software and are replacing your old one with the new one. So in your licenses section of the "My Account" you will find that 2007 and 2009 licenses change into 2007 and 2011 licenses. The effect of this is that whilst 2009 will continue to work (as long as you don't return your 2009 license as part of the upgrade process) if you lose your license at any time you will not be entitled to recover it.

If you purchase a new license then you are effectively buying another version of the software. So in your licenses section you will see the 2007 and 2009 licenses are added to and you will end up with 2007, 2009 and 2011 licenses of the software.

In terms of the software itself. Whether you upgrade or purchase a new license to get to 2011 the installation process is the same and you can run the applications independently of each other. So it is perfectly feasible to have 2007, 2009 and 2011 all running on the same machine.

The only exception to this is MultiTerm where you should uninstall MultiTerm 2009 and install 2011. MultiTerm 2011 will work with SDL Trados 2007, Studio 2009 and Studio 2011.

I hope this explains it?

Regards

Paul

[Edited at 2012-06-28 06:15 GMT]


I have a very urgent issue right now, after successful purchase/download of the upgrade for SDL Studio 2011 Freelance Plus. Before that, I returned my licence for the old version Studio 2009 Freelance Plus. (read this information on the SDL upgrad page)
...

Sorry, I made a very stupid mistake, I found the cause of my problem, so just ignore this request for help! Have a nice weekend everyone,

Margret

[Edited at 2013-01-26 12:23 GMT]


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