SDL studio - count repetitions
Thread poster: LouisR
LouisR  Identity Verified
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Nov 19, 2013

Hi

I don't understand the file report system in SDL Studio (2011).

I need to know how many segments are repeated and how many words it represents for a single file.
I need to count words for 100% repetitions and also for fuzzy repetitions, let's say down to 75%.

On the report I get (displayed below), the repetitions count is very lower than what my client claims.

Thanks



[Edited at 2013-11-19 10:52 GMT]

[Edited at 2013-11-19 10:53 GMT]


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Nora Diaz  Identity Verified
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First thing that comes to mind... Nov 19, 2013

Are you using the same TM as your client for the analysis?

Also, is the file being analyzed by itself or along with other files (on your side and on the client's side)? That makes a difference if the repetitions come from similarity with other files.


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LouisR  Identity Verified
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Hi Nora Nov 19, 2013

The file is used by itself, and my client doesn't have a TM.

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Nora Diaz  Identity Verified
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Strange Nov 19, 2013

If no TM (or an empty TM, rather) is used, then the analysis should be the same.

I would suggest asking the client if they can provide the analysis report so you can compare theirs to yours or at least sending them your analysis so they can check where the difference could be coming from.


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LouisR  Identity Verified
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Client doesn't use SDL, I use my own TM from previous works Nov 20, 2013

The client doesn't use SDL, I use my own TM from previous works. But I am looking for the count of internal repetitions, only from this very file.

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Daniel García
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Run the Analysis without any translation memory Nov 20, 2013

LouisR wrote:

The client doesn't use SDL, I use my own TM from previous works. But I am looking for the count of internal repetitions, only from this very file.


To find the repetitions, do the analysis with no TM.

If a repetition is a match in the translation memory, it is not counted as repetition but as match.

Daniel


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LouisR  Identity Verified
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I get the same number of repetitions Nov 21, 2013

Thanks, I just ran the analysis without TM, I get the same number of repetitions, that is 1285 words.

So, as you see my screen capture, you agree that there is on ly 1285 words in the duplicate segments ?

Thanks for your help.


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Daniel García
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Post a new screen capture to confirm Nov 21, 2013

LouisR wrote:

Thanks, I just ran the analysis without TM, I get the same number of repetitions, that is 1285 words.

So, as you see my screen capture, you agree that there is on ly 1285 words in the duplicate segments ?

Thanks for your help.


Maybe you could put a screen capture of the analysis without TM.

In your capture, 1285 is the number of 100% matches, not repetitions.

Daniel


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LouisR  Identity Verified
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how to Nov 22, 2013

I think, I am not sure how to perform the analysis without TM ... every time I do it I get different figures.

I went to files > right click on the file > batch tasks > analysis > next > all languages pairs > deactivate TM > OK





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LouisR  Identity Verified
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and here's another different one Nov 22, 2013

now I checked/activated the TM in All languages pairs and EN to FR and I get this :


argggghhhh!!!


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LouisR  Identity Verified
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anyone? Nov 28, 2013

Can anyone help me find how to simply count duplicate segments using SDL ?

thanks


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SDL Community  Identity Verified
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The second analysis you show... Nov 28, 2013

... looks as though it's using a TM that recognised the segments so you get 100% and Context Matches throughout.

The first looks as though you had an empty TM and so you get the repetitions and internal fuzzy matches.

If you've finished the translation and you want to look at how many repetitions there were then either look at the first analysis report in your list (you seem to have run quite a lot) or add an empty TM and analyse against that.

Regards

Paul


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LouisR  Identity Verified
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thanks Dec 5, 2013

I created a new project without TM. And imported the file in this project and anlysed it without TM, I get a clear result.
I have 8839 repetitions and 3152 uniques.

Thanks a lot for your help!


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