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Spell check a Translation Memory
Thread poster: Ben Senior

Ben Senior  Identity Verified
Germany
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German to English
Feb 3, 2015

I've been sent a TMX Translation Memory which I intend to use in Studio 2014 SP2. Is there a way I can spell check the content of the Target segments (English GB) before I start using the TM. As yet I've not imported the TMX into a SDLTM, just in case I need to do something before importing the TMX.

Any advice would be most welcome.

Ben


 

Jorge Payan  Identity Verified
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Heartsome TMX Editor could be the way Feb 3, 2015

I would convert the TMX to bilingual docx, spell check it in Word, and then convert it back to TMX

Heartsome is now free and open source:

https://onedrive.live.com/?cid=3B6F5EB26A597875&id=3B6F5EB26A597875!134&authkey=!AAwlyGd0lyFiGYQ

Saludos


 

Ben Senior  Identity Verified
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That's worth a try Feb 3, 2015

Jorge, I will have a look at it and get back.

Thank you.

Ben


 

_stephan  Identity Verified
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File Type Definition for TMX Feb 3, 2015

Funnily enough, that same question came up in my office today. There's an FTD for TMX files available over at Open Exchange:

http://www.translationzone.com/openexchange/app/filetypedefinitionfortmx-499.html#51793

I only did a quick test, but it looks like it's just the tool for the job. You can open your TMX in the editor view, run a spell-check, QA check, the whole shebang.

The description says the FTD is designed for TMX files created with Studio. I also made a quick project with a TMX created with Olifant and it did just fine.

I'm also curious about Heartsome now. I'll have to look into that when I get a chance.

Stephan


 

Walter Blaser  Identity Verified
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Keep in mind the size limitation Feb 3, 2015

Stephan

Doing this spell check and other QA in Studio's Editor is obviously tempting and interesting, the problem is Studio's Editor cannot cope with large files. So, if you have a big TM, you will not even be able to load the TMX into the Editor; it will crash before having read the entire file.

Olifant on the other hand can handle such very big files, but it does not have a spell-check.

For bigger projects, we also have the professional QA tools such as ErrorSpy, Verifika , QA Distiller, to name only a few of them.

Walter


 

Selcuk Akyuz  Identity Verified
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CafeTran Feb 4, 2015

It looks like a task for CafeTran. I hope one of the CafeTran gurus will reply here even with images.

 

Meta Arkadia
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Not a guru... Feb 4, 2015

Selcuk Akyuz wrote:
It looks like a task for CafeTran. I hope one of the CafeTran gurus will reply here even with images.

Your wish is my command.

TMX%20spelling.png

As long as you have enough RAM, the size of the TMX file isn't important. As far as I know, you can edit TMX files without restrictions with the trial version (for 30 days): http://www.cafetran.republika.pl/download.html
If necessary, ask one of the gurus "How to," or ask Selçuk or me.

Cheers,

Hans


 

Meta Arkadia
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TMXEditor? No. Feb 4, 2015

Jorge Payan wrote:
Heartsome TMX Editor could be the way

It's not, to my surprise. I just checked. It's a nice editor, but it doesn't let you perform a spelling check.

Cheers,

Hans


 

Emma Goldsmith  Identity Verified
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Xbench Feb 4, 2015

I'd use Xbench to spell check a tmx. http://www.xbench.net/
The free version, 2.9 will do it fine.

If you buy version 3, it integrates with Studio via a plug-in, which is very convenient, but not necessary for spell checking a tmx.


 

esperantisto  Identity Verified
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LanguageTool + CheckMate Feb 4, 2015

A TMX file can be checked with Okapi CheckMate + LanguageTool (standalone build running in server mode). Read here: Checking Translations or Bilingual Texts.

 

Richard Foulkes (X)  Identity Verified
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Out of curiosity... Feb 4, 2015

What's the point in doing this? Surely, you're going to spellcheck any translation you do using the TM so you would catch any typos at that stage and correct the segments you actually use. This way, you may spend hours spellchecking tens of thousands of TM segments that sit unused in the TM for the next 10 years.

 

Ben Senior  Identity Verified
Germany
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German to English
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Very useful comments, thanks Feb 4, 2015

Thanks to everybody for all your very useful comments, I'm sure at least one of them will fit the bill admirably.

A slight sidestep from the original question, is it possible to spell check an SDLTM, target segments? When so many other applications have the capability of spell checking, why not SDL Studio?

Ben


 

SDL Community  Identity Verified
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Studio just doesn't spellcheck... Feb 4, 2015

Ben Senior wrote:

A slight sidestep from the original question, is it possible to spell check an SDLTM, target segments? When so many other applications have the capability of spell checking, why not SDL Studio?



... the SDLTM. But there are ways to handle it. If the TMX is huge I would do this:

  1. Convert the TMX to an SDLTM (upgrade route)
  2. Split the SDLTM into bite sized XLIFF/TMX files using the SDL TmConvert app
  3. Create a project in Studio with these files
  4. Add the SDLTM and work through the checking

It's not much additional work and you'll be able to use all the Studio tools for QA including Grammar and checking which might be better.

Regards

Paul


 

Ben Senior  Identity Verified
Germany
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German to English
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Now we have all angles covered Feb 4, 2015

Thanks for that Paul.

It's required so seldom, but at the same time good to know that supplied TMs can be checked, if necessary. In all my years working with Trados and later Studio I have never needed to spell check a TM before and who knows when the next one will come along.

Cheers

Ben


 

_stephan  Identity Verified
Germany
Local time: 01:03
English to German
Just what exactly is a "reasonably sized" TM? Feb 4, 2015

Walter Blaser wrote:

Doing this spell check and other QA in Studio's Editor is obviously tempting and interesting, the problem is Studio's Editor cannot cope with large files. So, if you have a big TM, you will not even be able to load the TMX into the Editor; it will crash before having read the entire file.


There had to be a catch, hadn't there. I remember Studio white-screened on me a couple times when I tried to open huge source files. Now that you mention it, it also says on Open Exchange that the filter works best with "reasonably sized TMX files". Just how many TUs are reasonable? I'm juggling TMs with hundreds of thousands of TUs; that's obviously a bit much. Still I'm curious exactly when Studio will begin to struggle. If such a number can even be determined; I suppose this might depend on a lot of factors.


 
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