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How to run Trados on Mac - MacBook users experiences welcome!
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Gabriella Alberti  Identity Verified
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Feb 18, 2015

Hi everyone,

I bet this topic has been thoroughly discussed thousands of times, however I am just now getting into proper freelancing.

I am a MacBook user and so far for the little work that I had, I could work in Office and return the translations as Word.doc, though we all know agencies require Trados (I have been a PM myself) and I am now committing to the purchase.

As I have no possibility (and frankly, interest) to work on a different personal computer, I would like to hear your personal experiences with systems such as "Parallels Desktop", which can be downloaded onto a MacBook and serve to run Windows applications on Mac; this is suggested on the SDL page itself.

If any of you is a MacBook user, I would like to read all about this Parallels Desktop, or any other solution you might use in order to run and work with Trados on a MacBook.

Thanks a lot!

Gabriella


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sans22
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Bootcamp Feb 18, 2015

Hi, I have a macbook air and run Trados Studio 2014, Office and Windows 8.1 using bootcamp. It's easy to use and works well for me. I like the freedom of being able to use the Mac features when I want and run windows based programs too. I highly recommend this solution.

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We Support 3 Methods Feb 18, 2015

Hi Gabriella,

Our technical team support 3 methods of installing Windows on your Mac to run Studio.

They are Bootcamp, Parallels and Fusion.

If you required assistance with installation, our support team can be contacted by going to our Knowledge Base, you can use this link http://kb.sdl.com/#tab:SFTab:crumb:0 then select the solution finder menu/tab at the top of the page. Work through the options in the dropdown menus to locate your query, then an automated form will appeal on the right hand side of the page, fill this in and submit.

Hope this helps.

Kind Regards,

Steven Barlow

SDL Customer Experience Executive.


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Georgie Scott  Identity Verified
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Bootcamp for me too Feb 18, 2015

Hi Gabriella,

I also use Bootcamp with a Windows partition.

Originally I thought I'd try that first before trying Parallels because it's free. And I'm glad I did, because the cost of buying the Windows OS and a second version of Office was pretty high and Bootcamp works just fine.

It was a bit of a headache to get it all set up in the beginning, so eventually I went to the Apple store and a collection of their geniuses helped me sort everything out. I should have gone there in the first place, as they knew/worked out what they were doing and their help was free.

Bootcamp highly recommended. I just wish I'd dedicated more space to the Windows side in the beginning, as the Trados projects quickly take up space.

Best of luck,

[Edited at 2015-02-18 12:32 GMT]


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Tom in London
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PArallels Feb 18, 2015

The big advantage of Parallels, as its name implies, is that you can run the MacOS and Windows side by side and switch effortlessly from one to the other (but you need to max out the RAM in your computer!). You can't do that with Bootcamp: you can only run one or the other and have to restart the computer every time you switch over.

There are some excellent videos on the Parallels website, here:

http://www.parallels.com/uk/products/desktop/

[Edited at 2015-02-18 13:05 GMT]


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Chosana Thanabhumi  Identity Verified
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It depends on your RAM. Feb 18, 2015

If your Macbook has at least 8 GB RAM, Parallels or Fusion would run fine, but if your MacBook has less than 8 GB RAM, it is better to use Bootcamp. I have been using Trados Studio 2014 on Parallels 9, Windows 8.1 and Mavericks for a year. No problem at all, but I am not sure about Parallels 10. Some people have problems with it.

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LaLeona  Identity Verified
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Attempt at Studio on Macbook pro (late 2010) operating Yosemite Feb 18, 2015

A few months ago, I also acquired the Studio 2014 Freelance with 2 licenses thinking I could use one on my mbp & the other on a little Toshiba laptop which belongs to my boss, but which I use for certain tasks that he doesn't want me to perform on my mac.
I use Parallels with Windows 7 Professional on my mac frequently with other windows programs so I wasn't anticipating much problem. I was wrong.
I still don't know whether it was because I don't have enough memory allotted to Parallels - I couldn't get a real answer from anyone on that.
First, I discovered that Studio wouldn't recognize my Office 2011 for Mac. In my former CAT tool, I was able to copy/paste from Word on the mac side to the Windows side with no difficulty. That didn't work here.
I finally got a subscription to Office 365 to use on the Windows side (Parallels).
But this really turned out to be useless because Studio kept crashing, and causing everything else (not just Windows) to crash, too. I'd sit there for ages watching the little pinwheel spinning as I tried to just open it.
Long story short, I ran out of time. I had to get some productive work done so I installed Studio on the Toshiba along with Office 365 & have been running happily ever since.
I had to uninstall (return the license) Studio from the mbp before I could even use my other Windows programs on it because even if it wasn't open, it took forever for anything else to open.
I didn't try Bootcamp because I like the versatility that Parallels gives me. I have a million other duties that I have to attend to. I need to have everything open at the same time. I don't want to have to wait for anything to open & close in order to enjoy the mac functionality.
But if you do just translations, Bootcamp might work, with the caveat that you allot enough memory. Unfortunately, I don't know how much you would need there.
If your macbook is newer, you may also have the capacity to add more memory than I do with mine (unless I give up my optical drive, of course.) I'm maxed out at 8G.
Good luck. I'm interested in hearing how it goes. And whether anyone has any tips for me. I'd still rather use my mac even though at the moment, the little Toshiba is working out fine.


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Gabriella Alberti  Identity Verified
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Thanks Feb 18, 2015

Thank you all for commenting on this and sharing your experience!

I understand Bootcamp is easier and cheaper, however I would definitely need to use both Mac apps alongside Windows' so I think Parallels would be the best choice for me. The simple reason why I don't want to use a different personal computer for Trados is that - as many of you I'm sure - I travel a lot and get to work also while on holiday/abroad, and I usually only take my MacBook with me as it's my personal laptop. If I had to travel with two PCs, I'd have wasted the money spent on my very light MacBook

I think I will ask the Apple Store as well, I have converted to MacBooks many years ago but I'm in no way an IT specialist, therefore still prefer to have them doing all the set-ups etc.

I will keep checking every side of the three options given by the SDL support: Bootcamp, Parallel and Fusion before making a final choice.

Please keep sharing your experiences as they're really useful, and of course I will let you know how it goes!

Thanks x


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Bootcamp + Parallels Nov 17, 2015

Hello All,

One of the solutions I found online is that the best solution is to use bootcamp to install Windows and also to use Parallels if you do not want to log into the device once with Windows and another with Mac.

You will install windows on bootcamp and install Parallels on Mac and use the installed Bootcamp windows partition as the Virtual Machine that will enable you to use all installed programs on Windows easily.

(for me I have a HD with 250GB, and used for bootcamp partition 100GB)

The problem I face in SDL Trados Studio 2015 on the bootcamp partition is the improper appearance/view of SDL Studio 2015 inside Windows Bootcamp partition specially while I was selecting the languages as the drop-down menus are overlapped each others.

Is there any help dear Prozians.

Best,
Ehab


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xxx2nl  Identity Verified
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No solution yet Nov 18, 2015



The problem I face in SDL Trados Studio 2015 on the bootcamp partition is the improper appearance/view of SDL Studio 2015 inside Windows Bootcamp partition specially while I was selecting the languages as the drop-down menus are overlapped each others.

Is there any help dear Prozians.

Best,
Ehab


Are you using a Retina screen? Then I'm afraid there's no solution for this overlapping yet.

The same overlapping occurs in the project list:

http://www.proz.com/forum/sdl_trados_support/283463-studio_on_a_retina_screen.html

[Edited at 2015-11-18 07:53 GMT]


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Walter Blaser  Identity Verified
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Studio obviously requires that the Windows version of Office is installed Nov 19, 2015

LaLeona wrote:

First, I discovered that Studio wouldn't recognize my Office 2011 for Mac.


This is normal because Studio is a Windows application. it can only talk to the Windows version of Office, but not to the Mac version. There is no direct interface between a Windows application and a Mac application.

In my former CAT tool, I was able to copy/paste from Word on the mac side to the Windows side with no difficulty. That didn't work here.


You should be able to do this as Parallels allows to share the clipboard between the Mac host and the virtual machines (check that you did not inadvertently disable it in Parallel's Preferences). This is independent from Studio, copy/paste of text works between all applications. But in order to do a preview in Studio or use Word's spellchecker, you need to install the Windows version of MS Office in the same VM as Studio.

Walter


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Please correct me when I am wrong.... Nov 19, 2015

... but I don't get it. As I understand it, you have a Mac-computer and you use SDL, for which you have to install Windows! So, you end up working with Windows on a Mac anyway. In this case my question: 'Why working on a Mac in the first place? What is the advantage?'






[Edited at 2015-11-19 21:40 GMT]

[Edited at 2015-11-19 21:55 GMT]


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xxx2nl  Identity Verified
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Not a fan of Parallels Nov 20, 2015

Robert Rietvelt wrote:

... but I don't get it. As I understand it, you have a Mac-computer and you use SDL, for which you have to install Windows! So, you end up working with Windows on a Mac anyway. In this case my question: 'Why working on a Mac in the first place? What is the advantage?'


I'm not a fan of Parallels either. Too many issues, like overlapping lines in file selectors (Studio), missing buttons (memoQ), unreadable labels in the button bar (Transit). Déjà Vu being the positive exception here.

When you want to fully enjoy the magnificent hardware of a Retina Mac, you should choose a CAT tool that doesn't require Windows and still can handle Studio projects (as this was what you need to do).

[Edited at 2015-11-20 07:27 GMT]


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Roy Oestensen  Identity Verified
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Easier said than done Nov 20, 2015

2nl wrote:

When you want to fully enjoy the magnificent hardware of a Retina Mac, you should choose a CAT tool that doesn't require Windows and still can handle Studio projects (as this was what you need to do).

[Edited at 2015-11-20 07:27 GMT]


Trouble is that there are very few CAT tools that are made for other OS than Windows. In addition a lot of agencies expect you to use Studio. Many CAT tools make sure they can work with sdlxliff files, but you still need Studio to check that everything is OK before you send it back to these customers, otherwise you may get into trouble.

Roy


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Roy Oestensen  Identity Verified
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Anti-virus Nov 20, 2015

Robert Rietvelt wrote:
... but I don't get it. As I understand it, you have a Mac-computer and you use SDL, for which you have to install Windows! So, you end up working with Windows on a Mac anyway. In this case my question: 'Why working on a Mac in the first place? What is the advantage?'


One advantage I can see, is that you are not as prone to be infected with computer viruses on mac as you are on Windows.

Also, I like the user interface better. I have still ended up with Windows rather than Mac (Windows 8.1 for me, by the way), because a lot of programs (read: computer games - I am not the only in the family using the PC) only work on Windows.

Roy


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