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What MT plugin really work? Nothing works so far...
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Soraya Hoepfner
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Apr 3

HI There,

I have been using MT Enhanced Plugin for a while and today, out of the blue, it stopped working.
While I am still not able to detect the source of the problem (if with Microsoft API or with MT APi itself) I have spent the last 3 hours frustrated trying everything else:

Google Translate - Installs fine, and inside the bilingual file I get 'Error. Forbidden (403)
Apertium API - Installs fine, just it is a total mystery how one actually gets an API Key. Search everywhere, could not find out.
Altlang - Installs fine, again, how one gets an API Key is totally unclear and nothing is said about it.
SDL Automated Translation - connection timeout error, could not even try...

I am not a super tech savvy, but I am also not absolutely illiterate

I use SDL 2014.
Any tips on getting one that works, even if it is not for free (I consider pay for the service), much appreciated.

Best Regards
Soraya Hoepfner


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Lianne van de Ven  Identity Verified
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I am sorry to hear about your issues. Have you read this? I googled for mt plugin Studio 2014 not working.
https://community.sdl.com/solutions/language/translationproductivity/f/160/t/10735


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Soraya Hoepfner
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@Lianne Apr 3

Hi Lianne,
thank you, I came across with that post too, but I have no problems with installation just suddenly it stopped working. Using Google Translate API, I get no issues with credentials, nevertheless it does not work.

I finally had to surrender to SDL Cloud which is slow, not even close to accuracy as Microsoft API is, but it is so far what is it is working for now..

And honestly, why there is not a plugin - paid or not - which works with Microsoft Translate I don't know. Depending in what field and what content one is translating, it saves 80% of my mechanical effort and I am really not happy to go back to the past, specially when having about 10 K to type in the next days
Best,
Soraya


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Lianne van de Ven  Identity Verified
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Microsoft plugin Apr 3

I have not tried this, but would this help? There are quite a few posts about it.
https://social.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/29c19046-34cd-4fd3-9487-e8c0156e4491/trados-plugin-for-microsoft-translator?forum=translator

I had the Google Api quit on me once. I think I got a new api and that worked. Have you tried getting a new one?
Or could the problem be in a firewall?


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Jorge Payan  Identity Verified
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GT4T, anyone? Apr 4

As a satisfied user, I would suggest you to consider it:

- It works with both Bing Translator and / or Google Translate
- No need for conguration inside any CAT tool, as it works on the text in the screen or in the clipboard
- No need for keys for each MT provider
- Cost is around USD 6 per month

If interested visit dallascao

Saludos


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inesec  Identity Verified
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Maybe Apr 4

Soraya Hoepfner wrote:

HI There,

I have been using MT Enhanced Plugin for a while and today, out of the blue, it stopped working.
While I am still not able to detect the source of the problem (if with Microsoft API or with MT APi itself) I have spent the last 3 hours frustrated trying everything else:

Google Translate - Installs fine, and inside the bilingual file I get 'Error. Forbidden (403)
Apertium API - Installs fine, just it is a total mystery how one actually gets an API Key. Search everywhere, could not find out.
Altlang - Installs fine, again, how one gets an API Key is totally unclear and nothing is said about it.
SDL Automated Translation - connection timeout error, could not even try...

I am not a super tech savvy, but I am also not absolutely illiterate

I use SDL 2014.
Any tips on getting one that works, even if it is not for free (I consider pay for the service), much appreciated.

Best Regards
Soraya Hoepfner


you should visit your Microsoft account and see if your free quote has expired? I don't work with Studio but has the same problem with MemoQ and Google MT some time ago. Now I pay appr. 2 euros per month to Google and MT works smoothly. I believe that it may be the case with Microsoft too.


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Stepan Konev  Identity Verified
Russian Federation
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qtranslate Apr 4

https://quest-app.appspot.com/
includes:
Google Translate
Bing Translator
Promt
Babylon
SDL FreeTranslation.com
Yandex.Translate
youdao
Baidu
Naver

You can use the above-listed MT engines or other resources including Reverso, Urban Dictionary, Wiki, multitran

Free and portable: https://quest-app.appspot.com/download

[Edited at 2017-04-04 05:59 GMT]


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Soraya Hoepfner
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@Maija Apr 4

Maija Cirule wrote:

you should visit your Microsoft account and see if your free quote has expired? I don't work with Studio but has the same problem with MemoQ and Google MT some time ago. Now I pay appr. 2 euros per month to Google and MT works smoothly. I believe that it may be the case with Microsoft too.



Hi Maija, yes I have check that, and I have a subscription, the problem is that MT Enhanced Plugin now asks for
Client ID
Client Secret

and before I could swear all I need was a simply API Key, therefore, it does not work.

And if I chose Google, then it says 'forbidden' but my Google account is also set up with all paying information, and paying is really not a problem.
Would you mind to share with me what exactly did you do to make Google work? And if that was using MT Enhanced or another plugin?

I am just lost here... I have tried everything I new it could work... Double check: my google and azure account are set up and look ok..


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Soraya Hoepfner
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@Stepan Apr 4

Stepan Konev wrote:

https://quest-app.appspot.com/
includes:
Google Translate
Bing Translator
Promt
Babylon
SDL FreeTranslation.com
Yandex.Translate
youdao
Baidu
Naver

You can use the above-listed MT engines or other resources including Reverso, Urban Dictionary, Wiki, multitran

Free and portable: https://quest-app.appspot.com/download

[Edited at 2017-04-04 05:59 GMT]



Hi Stepan, thank you for your suggestion, but it seems that does not work 'inside' Trados... I actually need to get the suggestions already in the bilingual document on-the-go...


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Soraya Hoepfner
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@Jorge Apr 4

[quote]Jorge Payan wrote:

As a satisfied user, I would suggest you to consider it:

- It works with both Bing Translator and / or Google Translate
- No need for conguration inside any CAT tool, as it works on the text in the screen or in the clipboard
- No need for keys for each MT provider
- Cost is around USD 6 per month

If interested visit dallascao

Saludos

Ola, Jorge,

I check the tool, thanks for the link, but that works with Trados 2014, so I can have it integrated on my CAT Tool? I only see SDLX, also that cost is on the top of what you have to pay to Google Translator API?

Best,
Soraya


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inesec  Identity Verified
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Sorry Apr 4

Soraya Hoepfner wrote:

Maija Cirule wrote:

you should visit your Microsoft account and see if your free quote has expired? I don't work with Studio but has the same problem with MemoQ and Google MT some time ago. Now I pay appr. 2 euros per month to Google and MT works smoothly. I believe that it may be the case with Microsoft too.



Hi Maija, yes I have check that, and I have a subscription, the problem is that MT Enhanced Plugin now asks for
Client ID
Client Secret

and before I could swear all I need was a simply API Key, therefore, it does not work.

And if I chose Google, then it says 'forbidden' but my Google account is also set up with all paying information, and paying is really not a problem.
Would you mind to share with me what exactly did you do to make Google work? And if that was using MT Enhanced or another plugin?

I am just lost here... I have tried everything I new it could work... Double check: my google and azure account are set up and look ok..


as I am a complete computer idiot, a MemoQ support guy did this for me via TeamViewer, I only clicked on some buttons but I have forgotten on which ones:) As far as I remember, I entered my Google account and the guy found a translation services section (maybe it has another name). I remember that I click on something related to purchasing ....
Maybe you should contact a Trados or whats its name support team?

[Edited at 2017-04-04 07:39 GMT]


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Soraya Hoepfner
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@Maija Apr 4

Thanks! I have finally found a solution and I am back using Microsoft API Key, so I will give up on trying to guess why Google did not work for me even if I am active on Billing system.


For those interested in using MT Enhanced plugin, I followed the link below and reinstalled the plugin from scratch so only the Credential Key is needed:

http://appstore.sdl.com/app/mt-enhanced-plugin-for-trados-studio/604/?action=download


One still has to make sure to have an Azure account to get a credential key, but it is now back working smoothly and it is indeed the faster response so far in terms of MT integrated on Trados - from my experience.

Thank you all!

Soraya Hoepfner


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inesec  Identity Verified
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Congratulations Apr 4

Soraya Hoepfner wrote:

Thanks! I have finally found a solution and I am back using Microsoft API Key, so I will give up on trying to guess why Google did not work for me even if I am active on Billing system.


For those interested in using MT Enhanced plugin, I followed the link below and reinstalled the plugin from scratch so only the Credential Key is needed:

http://appstore.sdl.com/app/mt-enhanced-plugin-for-trados-studio/604/?action=download


One still has to make sure to have an Azure account to get a credential key, but it is now back working smoothly and it is indeed the faster response so far in terms of MT integrated on Trados - from my experience.

Thank you all!

Soraya Hoepfner


As I remember, this situation was a shear nightmare for me.


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Stepan Konev  Identity Verified
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This is exactly what it does Apr 4

Soraya Hoepfner wrote:
I actually need to get the suggestions already in the bilingual document on-the-go...


After you have all your source automatically copied to target (where no TM suggestions are available), you need just 3 keys: Ctrl, A, and any key of your choice.
When in target segment, press Ctrl+A, then Ctrl+your key. That's it.

[Edited at 2017-04-04 11:21 GMT]


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Wojciech_
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Not exactly the same Apr 4

This may work if you want to paste the whole translated segment. If, however, you want to use MT via Autosuggest, which is, in my opinion, much more convenient, because in this way you don't post-edit MT, but choose the best words and phrases from MT, then only the plugins are the way to go.

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