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Luca Tutino  Identity Verified
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Dec 4, 2010

After 4 years and 3 months I am about to change my HP Pavilion for a new PC.

Right now the only problem with my present notebook is the noise, otherwise I might easily keep using this one. The fan NOISE became disturbing about 4 months after I bought it, and by now I have my ears ringing day and night.

Since I got used to work with 2 monitors I almost never go to work near my fireplace anymore, and I am seriously considering going back to desktop (still a silent notebook would be the ideal solution)

So I am looking for your opinions considering my criteria

- no disturbing noise
- good performance with tons of windows running at the same time (no games or 3D)
- 2 nd VGA OUT (I work with two monitors)
- good price
- slight preference for a large notebook over a desktop
- 3 usb's or more (for external keyboard and mouse)

I would mainly like to hear your experiences and ideas about noise.

Ciao,
Luca


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Emin Arı  Identity Verified
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Sony Vaio serise Dec 4, 2010

I am very happy with my sony vaio vpcf12 afm model. No noise at all as in all series of vaio, you have to come close to fan to hear its voice. Only problem would be one vga out but some screens use hdmi as far as I know. It could be used for second screen.

Be sure that It will eventually pays its high price over time ( much more than HP). This is my second vaio.


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Sony Vaio Dec 4, 2010

Vaio is great. After about two years I heard the fan noise, which meant that the laptop was a bit overloaded and needed clean up.

All Toshibas (ones I know and used) were terrible noise-makers.

HP is good, but Vaio is quieter, moreover, mine has a fan going out the side of the laptop (unlike other laptops which have a few on the bottom...which heat up fast).

One more thing - the Intel is quite a quiet processor in comparison with others.


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cilantro  Identity Verified
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How about Apple Dec 4, 2010

I would seriously consider a MAC in your place.
I've been having the same noise issues with my fan (it probably needs just cleaning). It's a good LG laptop and I've come to expect it to work all the time.
The noise issue has been annoying, though. I had to get a job done, so I solved it at one point by using ear plugs.


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Apple is surely great but compatibility is problem Dec 4, 2010

I would definetly use a Mac if programs I use would run without any problem in a mac. Poor me:(

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Laurent KRAULAND  Identity Verified
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Indeed... Dec 4, 2010

cilantro wrote:

I would seriously consider a MAC in your place.
I've been having the same noise issues with my fan (it probably needs just cleaning). It's a good LG laptop and I've come to expect it to work all the time.
The noise issue has been annoying, though. I had to get a job done, so I solved it at one point by using ear plugs.


although Luca would have to deal with a virtual Windows machine for his CAT tools. Not the end of the world, though - but personally I prefer multi-platform TEnT.


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Luca Tutino  Identity Verified
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multi-platform TEnT? Dec 4, 2010

Laurent KRAULAND wrote:
personally I prefer multi-platform TEnT.


I never heard about it - what is it?


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Luca Tutino  Identity Verified
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I might rather go for a desktop Dec 4, 2010

Vaio and Mac seem expensive and limited at the same time in one way or another. I am now trying to get a better idea about desktops too...

Is there such a thing as a moderately priced desktop noiseless and with dual VGA?


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Gianni Pastore  Identity Verified
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Build yourself one (desktop) Dec 4, 2010

It's simpler than you think. I have built mine last year and I spent around 400 € shopping for the various parts around on the net. Since it's not for gaming, you don't need the latest CPU or Motherboard; I have chosen:

M/B: ASUS P5QL-E
CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad 8300 2.5 Ghz
RAM : 4 GB DDR2 Kingston
HD: 3x500 GB
VideoCard: NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS
Power supply: Corsair 400W
Thermaltake case
Samsung DVD writer

You can even choose to go water-cooling to have the noise virtually (and practically) reduced to zero!
Also, you can mount the three HD in hot-swap configuration in order to manage your backups. I find desktops so much more flexible than laptops.


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FarkasAndras
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Notes on notebooks Dec 4, 2010

First of all, in most cases, increased noise from a laptop means dust in the computer. Go at it with the vacuum cleaner, or even take it apart to dust it out and it should shut up.

Second, if you want a quiet laptop, get one that doesn't have heat problems. That means:
- A non-slim chassis; thin bodies don't allow good enough airflow
- Components that generate as little heat as possible. Integrated graphics card (no need for a discrete card for translation anyway), a modern core i 3/5/7 CPU - and if you are willing to sacrifice some of the performance, pick a ULV version. Maybe an SSD insted of a platter drive; SSDs make no noise of their own and generate less heat.

Of course makes and models differ depending on what sort of fan they have and how they regulate it, but those are pretty unpredictable factors. No manufacturer or model family is quiet or loud per se, it all depends on the configuraion. A lot could possibly depend on the fan model so there may be some trends there, but there's no reason to think that the vaio somebody on a different continent bought two years ago has the same sort of fan as the completely different vaio model you may buy now.

To be honest, I have no idea if desktops or laptops that are quieter. Common sense says it should be desktops, but desktops generate more heat so who knows. The quietest is a desktop that you keep in the basement with just the cables running into your room

If you are really determined, you could try and do some testing. Run a chess program on the demonstrators in a big box store for a minute and listen. (Chess programs stress the CPU at 100% so the fan will soon rev up.) Of course this could get you thrown out of the store pretty easily...

[Edited at 2010-12-04 22:39 GMT]


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That must be it Dec 4, 2010

Gianni Pastore wrote:

It's simpler than you think. I have built mine last year and I spent around 400 € shopping for the various parts around on the net. Since it's not for gaming, you don't need the latest CPU or Motherboard; I have chosen:

M/B: ASUS P5QL-E
CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad 8300 2.5 Ghz
RAM : 4 GB DDR2 Kingston
HD: 3x500 GB
VideoCard: NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS
Power supply: Corsair 400W
Thermaltake case
Samsung DVD writer

You can even choose to go water-cooling to have the noise virtually (and practically) reduced to zero!
Also, you can mount the three HD in hot-swap configuration in order to manage your backups. I find desktops so much more flexible than laptops.


Ciao Gianni,

Yes, this looks like what I was looking for. I guess I could start with a configuration similar to yours and then improve its cooling if necessary. I am using notebooks for such a long time though, so I have to figure out how to start about this....

Thank you!
Luca

[Edited at 2010-12-04 22:31 GMT]


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FarkasAndras
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Luca Tutino wrote:

Gianni Pastore wrote:

It's simpler than you think. I have built mine last year and I spent around 400 € shopping for the various parts around on the net. Since it's not for gaming, you don't need the latest CPU or Motherboard; I have chosen:

M/B: ASUS P5QL-E
CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad 8300 2.5 Ghz
VideoCard: NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS

You can even choose to go water-cooling to have the noise virtually (and practically) reduced to zero!


Ciao Gianni,

Yes, this looks like what I was looking for. I guess I could start with a configuration similar to yours and then improve its cooling if necessary. I am using notebooks for such a long time though, so I have to figure out how to start about this....

Thank you!

Well, if you want it to be quiet, you should definitely steer clear of Core 2 Quads and discrete graphics cards. Get a middling core i5 and just use the integrated graphics it already has. Trust me, it has more than enough muscle and it'll be a lot quieter (it generates half the heat of a core 2 quad+discrete card, or less).

Of course if you go with watercooling (which is probably a bit finicky to set up, expensive and a bit radical as a noise reduction solution), you can use any components, it'll be quiet.


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lucas olsson
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Get it built Dec 4, 2010

Hi Luca,

Don't know if you know how to build together your own computer, but if you don't know you should just go to an computer shop and get them to set up a quiet desktop system for your budget. That shouldn't cost more than around 300-400€ + monitor (get them quite cheap used).

Thats what I did and I got a powerful and quiet system for about 400€.

I would always recommend a desktop instead of an laptop (just to tiering to work with over long periods if you don't have an 24" laptop).


Have a nice weekend all,


Lucas


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chrislau  Identity Verified
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Mac is fine Dec 5, 2010

Emin Arı wrote:

I would definetly use a Mac if programs I use would run without any problem in a mac. Poor me:(


You can try Parallels Desktop on Mac OS X or just use the Bootcamp software to install a Microsoft Windows on your Mac.

Personally I use Wordfast Pro on Mac OS X as my first-choice CAT software and it works just fine.


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Sony Vaio Dec 5, 2010

I have one and it is indeed silent.

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