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Thread poster: Federica Masante

Federica Masante  Identity Verified
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Jan 4, 2006

Dear all,

I have been asked to carry out a proofing job with PageMaker. I have now downloaded the software (version 7.01) but I am at a loss as what to do next. I have managed to open the file but I don't know how to edit stuff, the cursor has turned into an arrow and it won't let me overwrite anything. I am real newbie with this software, so I apologise for asking silly questions that may make the hair of an expert user stand on end!! Thanks for any tips you may be able to give me.
Cheers,

Federica

[Edited at 2006-01-04 15:35]


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xxxBrandis
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PageMaker is not a program Jan 4, 2006

for proof-reading, insteading for lay-out. You can edit the text in the editor mode. Go to tab under options editor. You will have to open this everytime you have a new story in page maker. But if the text is a continuous or one document in one piece, you may not need to get into the editor mode. Best Brandis

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try this Jan 4, 2006

Hi Frederica,

I am far from being a Pagemaker expert but have used it to make short presentations.

I guess you have to double clic on the part of the text you need to edit and then right clic and choose "change" to edit the text in a separate window.

Hope this will work!

Christine


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Jerzy Czopik  Identity Verified
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Simply chose the right tool Jan 4, 2006

The arrow tool is to select and move graphic elements, including text boxes.

The toolbar in Pagemaker looks like that:

You see the arrow is pressed. Simply click at the "T" beside the arrow, then click with the cursor within the text you want to edit. Pagemaker will now behave similar to Word.

HTH
Jerzy

[Edited at 2006-01-04 16:48]


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Rafa Lombardino
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Best way to edit text on PageMaker Jan 4, 2006

Brandis wrote:

for proof-reading, insteading for lay-out. You can edit the text in the editor mode. Go to tab under options editor. You will have to open this everytime you have a new story in page maker. But if the text is a continuous or one document in one piece, you may not need to get into the editor mode. Best Brandis


I agree with Brandis. I have six years of experience with PageMaker due to my background in Journalism. In a press team, we'd usually take turns as page designer and text editor. Basically, whenever you're working with the text per se (not with the DTP aspect of it), you have to work on "editor mode". You'll see a continuous page with text only, as if you were working on Notepad, then you can edit it as you wish.

Good luck and have fun!


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Federica Masante  Identity Verified
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Easy when you know how!!! Jan 4, 2006

Hi all,

Thanks for your replies. You have been really helpful, as usual

Best,

Federica


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Annie Gambelin
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copy and paste Jan 4, 2006

In my experience with PageMaker, it is easier to copy and paste the text onto MS Word to proofread and make changes. You can then choose to send it back on Word or PageMaker. PageMaker is a publishing program and it is difficult to work with specially if you don't have experience with the program

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xxxBrandis
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Now idea would be Jan 4, 2006

Federica Masante wrote:

Hi all,

Thanks for your replies. You have been really helpful, as usual

Best,

Federica
Even in Text editor mode you cannot do any track editing, so copy and paste to word and do the track work, send that file initially to your customer, upon getting an OK, replace the text with the already edited word content. I hope all is clear now. Actually there is a trados plug-in for pagemaker files, using which one can conveniently extract all text content, proof-read, track edit and export back to pagemaker without losing any touch. you may sometimes depending upon the file nature and number of texts re-DTP after proofing. Brandis

[Edited at 2006-01-04 21:07]

[Edited at 2006-01-05 09:08]


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Rafa Lombardino
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Dangerous... Jan 5, 2006

Annie Gambelin wrote:

In my experience with PageMaker, it is easier to copy and paste the text onto MS Word to proofread and make changes. You can then choose to send it back on Word or PageMaker. PageMaker is a publishing program and it is difficult to work with specially if you don't have experience with the program


It's VERY DANGEROUS to copy and paste into Word... The formatting may be lost and you can really damage the whole design! If you really want to use Word because of the spell checker in a foreign language, do not edit the text into Word and then paste it back into PageMaker... Keep both windows open side by side and go changing the PageMaker text when you spot a mistake within Word.


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Jerzy Czopik  Identity Verified
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I moved the topic to Software Applications Jan 5, 2006

where it belongs, as Pagemaker is not a CAT tool.

Extracting text with Trados or other tool from PM to proofread it is not a good idea, as you may end with tons of TAGs, where reading the text will be very uncomfortable.

The best way is IMO to use the editor function in Pagemaker (even if I would prefer to stay in the layout modus) and the solution presented by Rafa Lombardino. If you take the text into Word, you can use the spellchecker in it. You can even paste text back from Word, but do this only for one paragraph max, ie go only to the next paragraph mark, but don´t take it with into your text copy (mark only the text without a paragraph mark before copying). In this way Pagemaker should keep the original formatting.

Kind regards
Jerzy


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Roberta Anderson  Identity Verified
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caution Jan 5, 2006

Caution with the Text Editor (Story Editor, Editor brani in the Italian version), as you cannot readily see what impact any changes you make will have on the text flow and copyfitting.

I think that for this reason it is best to work in layout view instead.
Caution with the pointer tool (the arrow), as you might inadvertently move text boxes and objects out of place. (You shouldn't need to use this tool, unless you need to make room for an extra line at the bottom of text box.)

You can run the spellchecker in PageMaker too, without having to copy/paste to Word, as long as the correct language had been applied to the text in the first place.

If corrections are minor and the layout is fairly simple, you shouldn't have any trouble. Otherwise you might experience text disappearing or ending up in unexpected places, due to the way the text flows.

Should you need help, feel free to contact me offline, I'll be happy to help.

Roberta


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