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Nuno Rosalino  Identity Verified
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Dec 7, 2011

(I'm not really sure under which subforum this thread would fit, so if a moderator could move it to the appropriate subforum if this isn't the right one, that'd be swell)

I just saw this TED Talk:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ht4qiDRZE8&

And I was really curious to find out what you guys think about it, how it could impact the translation business in the future, general opinions, etc etc.



Regards,

Nuno.


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Thayenga  Identity Verified
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Smiles before the blow Dec 8, 2011

The video starts out funny, but when he comes to his model of having the web translated for free, the smile vanished. Based on his philosophy, anybody can translate as well as a professional translator. I believe that we have seen more than enough examples of "wanna-be" translators.

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Attila Piróth  Identity Verified
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Two blog posts Dec 8, 2011

Here are two links to two widely read blogs: Duolingo: Crowdsourcing at its Best for the Translation Industry by a "Localization Visionary and Professional Contrarian" and Some (Serious) Observations on the Duolingo Brouhaha by a "financial translator" with "a dose of skepticism to guard against localization hype". Make sure to read the comments to the first one and the linked other blog entry of the second.

Best
Attila


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Michele Fauble  Identity Verified
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Clueless Dec 8, 2011

Luis von Ahn is a good example of how a person can become highly proficient in a second language and yet not have a clue about either translation or language learning.

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Stanislav Pokorny  Identity Verified
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The same thread... Dec 9, 2011

...opened by Nuno elsewhere can be found here.
Just for info...


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Nuno Rosalino  Identity Verified
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Indeed I did Dec 9, 2011

Stanislav Pokorny wrote:

...opened by Nuno elsewhere can be found here.
Just for info...


Yup, I also crossposted it to TC, I wanted opinions of people all around the community, not just Proz. I hope that's ok?

[Edited at 2011-12-09 14:58 GMT]


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Stanislav Pokorny  Identity Verified
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Why not? Dec 9, 2011

Nuno Rosalino wrote:

Stanislav Pokorny wrote:

...opened by Nuno elsewhere can be found here.
Just for info...


Yup, I also crossposted it to TC, I wanted opinions of people all around the community, not just Proz. I hope that's ok?


Hi Nuno,
IMO, it's perfectly okay. I just wanted to let other fellow ProZians know that some opinions on this topic already exist.


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Elke Fehling  Identity Verified
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Too many cooks spoil the broth Dec 9, 2011

I enjoyed watching the video and I find the idea really intersting.

But why doesn't this guy know that a text isn't just a bunch of random lines or paragraphs that can each be translated by a separate translator (or student, doesn't matter). The problem isn't the quality of the work of the single translators but the fact that it's not possible to produce a good and readable text like that.

Too many cooks spoil the broth.


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Nuno Rosalino  Identity Verified
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Secret sauce Dec 9, 2011

Elke Fehling wrote:

I enjoyed watching the video and I find the idea really intersting.

But why doesn't this guy know that a text isn't just a bunch of random lines or paragraphs that can each be translated by a separate translator (or student, doesn't matter). The problem isn't the quality of the work of the single translators but the fact that it's not possible to produce a good and readable text like that.

Too many cooks spoil the broth.



I think the real crux of the question is how their system 'creates' the "professional" translation from the patchwork of simple translations. Keeping the cooking analogy going, if their 'secret sauce' is good enough, this could be really interesting; if not, well, they'll surely tank. But right now we can only wait and see, I suppose; Until then all we can do is take what the presentation said at face value.

[Edited at 2011-12-09 16:03 GMT]

[Edited at 2011-12-09 16:06 GMT]


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