Using aligned rference material in reverse language direction Thread poster: Julia B.
| Julia B. United Kingdom Local time: 13:09 Member (2015) French to English
Hello, I'm hoping someone might help me with a problem I'm having. I have to use aligned reference material (I have the alignment project performed in Transit NXT) for which the alignment project direction was English to French. However, I need to use the material to pretranslate a project from French to English. Is there any way I an use the aligned material in reverse? When i tried, I simply got the source language segments in the target language sectio... See more Hello, I'm hoping someone might help me with a problem I'm having. I have to use aligned reference material (I have the alignment project performed in Transit NXT) for which the alignment project direction was English to French. However, I need to use the material to pretranslate a project from French to English. Is there any way I an use the aligned material in reverse? When i tried, I simply got the source language segments in the target language section. Perhaps I have not attached the correct files (I attached the whole alignment project, rather than files from within it... if I need to select certain files, I don't know which to use!), or perhaps there is a language setting I have missed somewhere. I set the language correctly for my project, but may have missed something extra I need to do to work in the opposite direction to that specified in the alignment project. Or perhaps (I dread to think) it isn't possible at all? I didn't find the manual or alignment manual much help on this issue: the instructions for actually attaching an aligned project as reference material are very brief and no detailed step-by-step is given! Thanks, Julia ▲ Collapse | | | starspain Spain Local time: 14:09 Member (2003) Spanish to German + ... Reverse language in Transit | May 4, 2012 |
When you reverse languages of a language pair, you always have to make sure that your new target language files are marked as "translated" to be able to use them as reference material. Regards, Michael | | | wotswot France Local time: 14:09 Member (2011) French to English Reverse language | May 4, 2012 |
You could also export as a TMX then import the TMX as a language pair. This is the point at which you can specify: the 2 (or more) languages the source language Regards Richard | | | Julia B. United Kingdom Local time: 13:09 Member (2015) French to English TOPIC STARTER Solution provided by Transit | May 4, 2012 |
Just a follow-up in Transit's favour here. I emailed them for a solution and got a really quick response, which I will share in case anyone is interested: Thanks for your message. Yes, it is possible to use material going in the opposite direction. Obviously, Transit is designed to default to only reading the reference in the direction it was created - i.e. if you aligned it as source German, target English, this will be the automatic default direction if y... See more Just a follow-up in Transit's favour here. I emailed them for a solution and got a really quick response, which I will share in case anyone is interested: Thanks for your message. Yes, it is possible to use material going in the opposite direction. Obviously, Transit is designed to default to only reading the reference in the direction it was created - i.e. if you aligned it as source German, target English, this will be the automatic default direction if you attach it to a project. (It can tell which is which by the timestamp of the file. The assumption is that the later time stamp must be the target language, as it was amended last.) But it is possible to tell Transit to ignore this. For both importing a project and for just adding this reference material to a PPF you have been sent, it is simply a matter of selecting the aligned project in your Project Settings (Reference material tab, then either "Add projects...", "Add folder..." or "Add files...", whichever you prefer). Depending on which process you are doing, the next step will be slightly different, but will have the same effect: If importing: In the Project Settings > Pretranslation tab, the "Min. segment status" option is probably set by default to "Translated". Untick the checkbox. Then import as usual, and it will now read the material during pretranslation. If adding as ref: In the Matches ribbon, change the "Min. status" to "Ignore". You will then see matches in the Fuzzy window. In each case, Transit will now disregard the timestamping, and just read whatever reference material you have attached. A note of caution: since you have now disabled Transit's 'safety net' (i.e. to only pretranslate/display fuzzy matches from material which has been user-confirmed as Translated in that particular language direction), it could also bring up untranslated segments, if you have any in the attached reference material. For example, if you imported a project of 1000 words, and later were told by the client to only translate half, and therefore half remains completely untranslated, this would also be seen as a "100% match" if any sentences exactly match the new project you're working on. Therefore, please do use it with care. As soon as you have finished using this aligned file, I would strongly recommend returning to the default setting of "Translated". ▲ Collapse | |
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msoutopico Ireland Local time: 13:09 English to Galician + ... Using reference material from an inverse language combination | May 14, 2012 |
There's an entry in Transit NXT's blog that talks about using reference material from an inverse language combination: http://bit.ly/MceMyn. I hope it helps or adds valuable info. Cheers, Manuel | | | To report site rules violations or get help, contact a site moderator: You can also contact site staff by submitting a support request » Using aligned rference material in reverse language direction TM-Town | Manage your TMs and Terms ... and boost your translation business
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