Help with this translation Portuguese to English
Thread poster: Clara Gomez and Marcelo Bellizzi

Clara Gomez and Marcelo Bellizzi
Local time: 14:34
English to Pohnpeian
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Dec 22, 2012

Dear Fellow Translators,

While reviewing a translation by another professional, I think the following is a mistranslation. I am kindly requesting your honest feedback and would appreciate if you have a suggestion to improve the quality. To give you some context, this is in an Agreement between an Exhibitor and a Trade Show representative from the Maritime Industry.

Text in Portuguese:

O Valor de lançamento somente será válido para o pagamento do sinal efetivado até o dia 03/12/12 após essa data será aplicada a tabela da
data da quitação do sinal.


Translated text:

The POSTING amount shall only be valid for the down payment effected until 12/03/2012; after this date, the table of the down payment's settlement date shall be considered.

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YOUR SUGGESTIONS WILL BE VERY MUCH APPRECIATED.

BEST REGARDS,

CLARA GOMEZ
TOTAL TRANSLATIONS, INC.


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neilmac  Identity Verified
Spain
Local time: 20:34
Spanish to English
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Post as kudoz query Dec 23, 2012

Although I am not a Portuguese translator myself, I agree that on face value that "POST value" for "Valor de lançamento" looks like it could be a mistranslation. The end of the sentence looks a bit awkward too.
Google translates offers "valor de lançamento" as "release value" which is used in shipping of goods, but I think more context is needed. To have a better idea, I'd need more context, so I recommend posting it as a kudoz query to see what our colleagues suggest.


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LegalTransform  Identity Verified
United States
Local time: 14:34
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This is a perfect example... Dec 24, 2012

of a translation worth .06 a word. Garbage!

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Vítor Cortes  Identity Verified
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Local time: 19:34
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Eu penso que será mais assim... Apr 11, 2013

O MONTANTE de lançamento será apenas válido para o pagamento do sinal efetivado até o dia 12/03/2012, após essa data, o valor a pagar será referente à tabela de datas para liquidação de pagamento de sinais.

Espero ter ajudado.

Vítor Cortes


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José Henrique Lamensdorf  Identity Verified
Brazil
Local time: 17:34
English to Portuguese
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Source text is not any good Apr 11, 2013

Clara Gomez and Marcelo Bellizzi wrote:

Text in Portuguese:

O Valor de lançamento somente será válido para o pagamento do sinal efetivado até o dia 03/12/12 após essa data será aplicada a tabela da data da quitação do sinal.


"Valor de lançamento" is the amount entered on accounting records. Therefore a timely payment made will be entered as the same amount appearing on the corresponding notice, while a late payment will include any penalties for the delay.

"será aplicada a tabela da data da quitação" is poorly written. From a PT-PT standpoint, this is going too far beyond PT-BR in leaving things implied, rather than stating them explicitly. Either "a tabela será aplicada para a data da quitação" or "o índice/fator da tabela será aplicado para a data da quitação" should do.

Clara Gomez and Marcelo Bellizzi wrote:
Translated text:

The POSTING amount shall only be valid for the down payment effected until 12/03/2012; after this date, the table of the down payment's settlement date shall be considered.


If we take what is actually meant here, a possible option would be:

The amount payable/due shown (on the notification? agreement?) shall be valid only if the down payment is made by 12/03/12; thereafter the down payment table (index? factor?) for the actual payment date shall be applied.



I hope this is not another job like the one I'm doing right now... a possibly 20+ pages agreement crammed into just one! All in 4-pt Arial, single-spaced lines. They apparently felt so sure that nobody would be able to read it without a good magnifying glass (yet OCR worked!), that typos and missing words abound. People tend to get careless when they know that nobody will be watching.


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