Euro hits 4-year low on mistranslated French comment

This discussion belongs to Translation news » "Euro hits 4-year low on mistranslated French comment".
You can see the translation news page and participate in this discussion from there.


Andre Dumoulin  Identity Verified
Panama
Local time: 04:53
Member (2010)
English to Spanish
+ ...
Don't shoot on the translator Jun 8, 2010

Since the Ems Dispatch (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ems_Dispatch) translators should know that ambiguities are usually interpreted by journalists in the sense of making things worse rather than attenuating tensions. Nothing new under the sun

Direct link Reply with quote
 
Daniel García
English to Spanish
+ ...
Were translators involve? Jun 8, 2010

translators should know that ambiguities are usually interpreted by journalists in the sense of making things worse rather than attenuating tensions. Nothing new under the sun


Interesting.... I am wondering what actually happened.

Apparently, the statement was made in French during a press conference but who did the translation? Was it translated by the journalists themselves on the fly into English? Was it an error of the interpreters? Was the translation done by a professional translator?

Daniel


Direct link Reply with quote
 
Krzysztof Kajetanowicz  Identity Verified
Poland
Local time: 10:53
English to Polish
+ ...
heh Jun 8, 2010

I don't think we should be flattering ourselves. Currencies don't hit 4-year lows "on mistranslations". They do, at times, on bankrupting countries.

Direct link Reply with quote
 

LegalTransform  Identity Verified
United States
Local time: 04:53
Member (2002)
Spanish to English
+ ...
Viktoria where are you? Jun 8, 2010

Personally, I would love to hear ViktoriaG's expert opinion about the translation of this word in this situation and in general!

Direct link Reply with quote
 
Laurent KRAULAND  Identity Verified
France
Local time: 10:53
French to German
+ ...
"Parité" vs. "parity" Jun 9, 2010

"Parité" = general exchange rate
"Parity" = one-to-one exchange rate

Mr. Fillon basically said "I only see good news in the (current) EUR/USD exchange rate", which was allegedly mistranslated on the fly by Anglophone press agencies as meaning "I only see good news in the EUR/USD parity".

See http://www.latribune.fr/actualites/economie/international/20100604trib000516453/l-euro-degringole-victime-d-un-faux-ami.html for further reference.

[Edited at 2010-06-09 06:39 GMT]


Direct link Reply with quote
 

Tomás Cano Binder, BA, CT  Identity Verified
Spain
Local time: 10:53
Member (2005)
English to Spanish
+ ...
A translator?? Jun 9, 2010

This was clearly not the fault of a translator, but of a journalist who speaks some French.

Direct link Reply with quote
 
Post removed: This post was hidden by a moderator or staff member for the following reason: Empty post.

Neil Coffey  Identity Verified
United Kingdom
Local time: 09:53
French to English
+ ...
Accident waiting to happen... Jun 9, 2010

Laurent KRAULAND wrote:
"Parité" = general exchange rate
"Parity" = one-to-one exchange rate


Although in fairness, "parité" does also man "parity" (just not on this occasion -- why the "translators" thought that parity is something M Fillon would rejoice in only they can explain...).

I think there's a lesson for news agencies here (which isn't really to do with language ability, but more along the lines of "use your loaf").

But just possibly there's a lesson for the French Prime Minister about designing a speech for an international audience...


Direct link Reply with quote
 
Laurent KRAULAND  Identity Verified
France
Local time: 10:53
French to German
+ ...
100% agreed Jun 10, 2010

Neil Coffey wrote:

Laurent KRAULAND wrote:
"Parité" = general exchange rate
"Parity" = one-to-one exchange rate


Although in fairness, "parité" does also man "parity" (just not on this occasion -- why the "translators" thought that parity is something M Fillon would rejoice in only they can explain...).

I think there's a lesson for news agencies here (which isn't really to do with language ability, but more along the lines of "use your loaf").

But just possibly there's a lesson for the French Prime Minister about designing a speech for an international audience...

Yes, that's right.

There would have been no problem for Mr. Fillon saying "Je ne vois que de bonnes nouvelles dans le taux de change actuel entre l'euro et le dollar américain", which would have been unambiguous.

The sentence, in itself, seems as awkward as it can seem spontaneous. I think some training in answering questions from the press could not do any harm.


Direct link Reply with quote
 

LegalTransform  Identity Verified
United States
Local time: 04:53
Member (2002)
Spanish to English
+ ...
Faux-ami Jun 10, 2010

It looks like the translator 1) fell in the trap of a false friend and 2) did not have enough time to review and think about the translation and realize that it did not make sense.

As an aside, I put the sentence into Google translate and Google fell into the same trap.

A related French article:
http://www.tradonline.fr/blog/2010/06/quand-une-erreur-de-traduction-a-des-consequences-facheuses/

"Une simple erreur de traduction a précipité ce vendredi l’euro sous la barre de 1,20 dollar, pour la première fois depuis mars 2006. Il est près de 14h30 quand François Fillon, en déplacement au Canada, répond dans une conférence de presse à une question sur la dégringolade de la devise européenne. Il indique qu’il ne voit “que des bonnes nouvelles dans la parité entre l’euro et le dollar”.

Les agences de presse anglophones reprennent immédiatement ses déclarations. Trop rapidement peut-être : dans la précipitation elles traduisent “parité” par “parity”, un faux-ami. En français, le terme “parité” signifie en effet “taux de change d’une monnaie par rapport à une autre” alors que “parity” s’entend dans le sens étroit d’une égalité parfaite entre les devises

Et voila donc, le gouvernement français qui milite pour qu’un euro s’échange contre un dollar. Un quiproquo qui a obligé Matignon à préciser les propos de François Fillon. Mais le mal était fait : en quelques minutes, les cambistes, déjà inquiets de la situation financière de la Hongrie, vendent de l’euro, qui chute à son plus bas niveau depuis quatre ans.

Les traducteurs professionnels ont encore des beaux jours devant eux!"


Direct link Reply with quote
 

Amitabh Kumar
India
Local time: 15:23
Japanese to English
+ ...
Agreed completely with Jeff... Bravo.. Oct 19, 2011

Jeff Whittaker wrote:

It looks like the translator 1) fell in the trap of a false friend and 2) did not have enough time to review and think about the translation and realize that it did not make sense.

As an aside, I put the sentence into Google translate and Google fell into the same trap.

A related French article:
http://www.tradonline.fr/blog/2010/06/quand-une-erreur-de-traduction-a-des-consequences-facheuses/

"Une simple erreur de traduction a précipité ce vendredi l’euro sous la barre de 1,20 dollar, pour la première fois depuis mars 2006. Il est près de 14h30 quand François Fillon, en déplacement au Canada, répond dans une conférence de presse à une question sur la dégringolade de la devise européenne. Il indique qu’il ne voit “que des bonnes nouvelles dans la parité entre l’euro et le dollar”.

Les agences de presse anglophones reprennent immédiatement ses déclarations. Trop rapidement peut-être : dans la précipitation elles traduisent “parité” par “parity”, un faux-ami. En français, le terme “parité” signifie en effet “taux de change d’une monnaie par rapport à une autre” alors que “parity” s’entend dans le sens étroit d’une égalité parfaite entre les devises

Et voila donc, le gouvernement français qui milite pour qu’un euro s’échange contre un dollar. Un quiproquo qui a obligé Matignon à préciser les propos de François Fillon. Mais le mal était fait : en quelques minutes, les cambistes, déjà inquiets de la situation financière de la Hongrie, vendent de l’euro, qui chute à son plus bas niveau depuis quatre ans.

Les traducteurs professionnels ont encore des beaux jours devant eux!"


[Edited at 2011-10-19 22:50 GMT]

[Edited at 2011-10-19 22:51 GMT]

[Subject edited by staff or moderator 2011-10-20 16:52 GMT]


Direct link Reply with quote
 


To report site rules violations or get help, contact a site moderator:

Moderator(s) of this forum
Jared Tabor[Call to this topic]

You can also contact site staff by submitting a support request »

Euro hits 4-year low on mistranslated French comment

Advanced search







CafeTran Espresso
You've never met a CAT tool this clever!

Translate faster & easier, using a sophisticated CAT tool built by a translator / developer. Accept jobs from clients who use SDL Trados, MemoQ, Wordfast & major CAT tools. Download and start using CafeTran Espresso -- for free

More info »
TM-Town
Manage your TMs and Terms ... and boost your translation business

Are you ready for something fresh in the industry? TM-Town is a unique new site for you -- the freelance translator -- to store, manage and share translation memories (TMs) and glossaries...and potentially meet new clients on the basis of your prior work.

More info »



Forums
  • All of ProZ.com
  • Term search
  • Jobs
  • Forums
  • Multiple search