Family tree of languages has roots in Anatolia, biologists say

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ATIL KAYHAN  Identity Verified
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Yes Oct 28, 2012

I am convinced.

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Ty Kendall  Identity Verified
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This is an old story.... Oct 28, 2012

...but you have to love it for this line:

"the first Indo-European speakers were peaceable farmers in Anatolia, now Turkey, about 9,000 years ago, who disseminated their language by the hoe, not the sword."

I've often thought that it's much easier to spead something by the hoe instead of the sword!


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Phil Hand  Identity Verified
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Renfrew 1987? Oct 28, 2012

http://www.amazon.com/Archaeology-Language-Puzzle-Indo-European-Origins/dp/0521386756

"Renfrew argues that common linguistic elements spread through the ancient world not through the sudden invasion of a single people, but through the peaceful spread of agriculture out of Anatolia."

Apparently the controversy has raged on, but the theory's not new. And genetic evidence is included in the Renfrew book, too.


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Gennady Lapardin  Identity Verified
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I am not convinced at all Oct 28, 2012

The family is called INDO, etc.
Where is "Indo" in this theory?
The Anatolians teached their language to the proto-Hindus?!, who maybe 9 thousand years ago were fiddling with PCs like we do now?

[Edited at 2012-10-28 22:29 GMT]


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If you aren't going to be convinced.... Oct 29, 2012

...it shouldn't be because it has "Indo" in it's name. It has that because it includes the Indo-Aryan and Iranian languages (brought to northern India by a later wave of invaders).

The Dravidian languages of southern India are not a part of the Indo-European tree.


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Gennady Lapardin  Identity Verified
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An opinion from the inventor of the term "Dravidian languages" Oct 29, 2012

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dravidian_languages

The English word Dravidian was first employed by Robert Caldwell in his book of comparative Dravidian grammar based on the usage of the Sanskrit word drāviḍa in the work Tantravārttika by Kumārila Bhaṭṭa (Zvelebil 1990 p.xx). Caldwell used 'Dravidian' as a generic name for the family of languages spoken in Southern India to distinguish them from Indo-Aryan, the branch of Indo-European spoken in the Indian subcontinent. Before Caldwell, the word drāviḍa was traditionally used to designate the Tamil language and people, and vaguely the people of South India. In his own words, Caldwell says,

"The word I have chosen is ‘Dravidian’, from Drāviḍa, the adjectival form of Dravida. This term, it is true, has sometimes been used, and is still sometimes used, in almost as restricted a sense as that of Tamil itself, so that though on the whole it is the best term I can find, I admit it is not perfectly free from ambiguity."


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