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Soonthon LUPKITARO(Ph.D.)  Identity Verified
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Origin of English Jun 18, 2017

In history, France and England had the same king and they exchanged culture including languages. New introduction of English words into France is not a wonder. New generation of French speak better English.

Dr. Soonthon Lupkitaro


 

Adrien Esparron
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Are you sure? Jun 19, 2017

Soonthon LUPKITARO(Ph.D.) wrote:

In history, France and England had the same king



I'm really wondering about this affirmation...

Regards


 

Manuella Lange
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A list of the new words ? Jun 19, 2017

Very interesting ! I am curious to know whether such a list of the new coming words do exist.

 

Manuella Lange
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Are you sure? Jun 19, 2017

Adrien Esparron wrote:

Soonthon LUPKITARO(Ph.D.) wrote:

In history, France and England had the same king



I'm really wondering about this affirmation...

Regards


This is partially right but way back in History. Think of Guillaume le Conquérant (king of Enlgland in 11th century) of Aliènor d'Aquitaine Queen of England in the 12th century after she had been queen of "Les Francs".
For sure they had no clue of the internet in those times but it is true that round of 100-200 words of the basic french dictionary are from an english origin from this time.

Nice day ! Manuella


 

Tom in London
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But... Jun 19, 2017

Soonthon LUPKITARO(Ph.D.) wrote:

In history, France and England had the same king and they exchanged culture including languages. New introduction of English words into France is not a wonder. New generation of French speak better English.

Dr. Soonthon Lupkitaro


But new generation of English him no speak better French.


 

Tom in London
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Correct Jun 19, 2017

Adrien Esparron wrote:

Soonthon LUPKITARO(Ph.D.) wrote:

In history, France and England had the same king



I'm really wondering about this affirmation...

Regards


England was invaded by the Normans in 1066, who took over everything and established a dynasty that lasted for centurires. Entire cities were rebuilt; the so-called "great English cathedrals" were in fact great French cathedrals, built by French-speaking craftsmen. The French influence in British culture goes very deep.


http://bit.ly/2rIni47


[Edited at 2017-06-19 12:09 GMT]


 

Mirko Mainardi  Identity Verified
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Henry VI Jun 19, 2017

Adrien Esparron wrote:

Soonthon LUPKITARO(Ph.D.) wrote:

In history, France and England had the same king



I'm really wondering about this affirmation...


Henry VI was crowned king of England and France.


 

Tom in London
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Yes, and... Jun 19, 2017

Mirko Mainardi wrote:

Henry VI was crowned king of England and France.


Yes and he was the grandson of Charles VI, King of France. His mother was Catherine of Valois. His wife was Margaret of Anjou. The House of Plantagenet, rulers of the Kingdom of England (but of French origin) spent 100 years fighting the House of Valois, (also French) in an effort to decide who should rule. The indigenous English had been vassals of the French monarchy ever since 1066. All those castles dotted around England were built by the French (the Normans) to defend them from English rebellions. They are French castles.

The Influence of French on the English Language

http://bit.ly/2rI6k5X

[Edited at 2017-06-19 13:30 GMT]


 

Teresa Borges
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Well... Jun 19, 2017

... as the motto of the Order of the Garter says: Honni soit qui mal y pense!

 

Matthias Brombach  Identity Verified
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Jun 20, 2017



[Edited at 2017-06-20 05:43 GMT]


 

Matthias Brombach  Identity Verified
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... and some German influences: Jun 20, 2017

Tom in London wrote:

But new generation of English him no speak better French.


... like the attitude to correct / point on grammar or spelling errors of other people, even of non-native fellow translators, although I must admit with a bit more (British) humor than by Germans ever would be possibleicon_wink.gif


 

Tom in London
United Kingdom
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Hohenstaufen Jun 20, 2017

The current British royal family (the adjective "royal" is of French derivation) is German. Their real name is Hohenstaufen Saxe-Coburg Gotha. But in 1914, when the German Kaiser Wilhelm went to war against his English cousin, the English cousin changed it to the rather pathetic "Windsor".

A German joke is no laughing matter.

[Edited at 2017-06-20 09:48 GMT]


 

Matthias Brombach  Identity Verified
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He will make you think differently, with striking arguments: Jun 20, 2017


A German joke is no laughing matter.

So far I know, Prince Ernst August of Hanover has not only a claim to the Crown of the United Kingdom, but also a very keen sense of humor. These are literally "striking" arguments against your theory (see link 2, "Controversy")

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_successions_of_the_English_crown

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Ernst_August_of_Hanover_(born_1954)#Controversy


 

Robert Rietvelt  Identity Verified
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Well, while we are at it.... Jun 20, 2017

.... don't forget the Dutch!icon_smile.gif

 

Kay Denney  Identity Verified
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quick wiki search later... Jun 20, 2017

Manuella Lange wrote:

Adrien Esparron wrote:

Soonthon LUPKITARO(Ph.D.) wrote:

In history, France and England had the same king



I'm really wondering about this affirmation...

Regards


This is partially right but way back in History. Think of Guillaume le Conquérant (king of Enlgland in 11th century) of Aliènor d'Aquitaine Queen of England in the 12th century after she had been queen of "Les Francs".
For sure they had no clue of the internet in those times but it is true that round of 100-200 words of the basic french dictionary are from an english origin from this time.

Nice day ! Manuella

Nope, sorry. William the Conqueror was merely Duke of Normandy, not the king of France.
And queens are not kings, especially in France where there has never been a queen except as the wife of the king, never simply queen in her own right like the current British monarch.


 
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