"Leisure translators" and stereotypes in the industry
Thread poster: Yolanda Morato
Yolanda Morato  Identity Verified
Spain
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Apr 9, 2013

Dear colleagues,

I have just read the following ad: https://www.proz.com/job/757192 and cannot help thinking that it perpetuates so many stereotypes we are trying to abolish in our profession!

I understand that there are certain NGOs that request volunteer translators with no formal training in order to reach further in terms of societal impact. However, calling for "leisure translators" which, by the way, does not refer to the tourist industry but to people doing translations in their spare time, is a way to get cheap work while assuming that this is what many people do. No matter the project is for "a large group of academic professionals" who should be paying the usual rate for it.

I am sorry, but statements such as
"It is for a great cause and a huge effort in the Open Source online community."
"If you are a student or academic that regularly reads and engages research publications in any academic field (from anthropology to physics), this is a great opportunity to further research as you translate and earn extra cash on the side."

have really struck me. Translation takes so much more!

This is the first time I have seen in written form "leisure translators" and would like to hear/read your views about it.

Best regards,

Yolanda Morató


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Natalia Mackevich  Identity Verified
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If this is what they want, let them get it! Apr 9, 2013

Why not? It's not a good job for you or me, so we can just ignore it and move on. In the meantime, students can get some practice.

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Apurva Barve
German to English
Depends on the perspective Apr 9, 2013

I think it is a good opportunity for students.

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Edward Vreeburg  Identity Verified
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actually ... somewhere in the Netherlands... Apr 9, 2013

...another translations agency is looking for non-native students 3rd or final year of French studies, to proofread work, in a foreign language (French)...

Mainly for the work experience too! (they do get a 0,008 / word for proofreading I believe...) But these are commercial translations! Not some academic bits of take-them-or-leave-them research papers...


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Huasha
China
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Leisure Apr 10, 2013

Apparently, the point is "leisure", rather than "job", I think.
Just ignore it.


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Michelle Kusuda  Identity Verified
United States
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I sent them a message. Apr 10, 2013

A translation agency asking translators to accept substandard pay for translations? Would they like substandard quality translations?

It would really be funny if everyone signed up and then provided them with Google Translate translations. Would they still pay? Substandard pay for substandard work?

Sorry... Just feeling a bit playful!

On a serious note, that posting does not belong in a professional translation site.

Michelle



Yolanda Morato wrote:

Dear colleagues,

I have just read the following ad: https://www.proz.com/job/757192 and cannot help thinking that it perpetuates so many stereotypes we are trying to abolish in our profession!

I understand that there are certain NGOs that request volunteer translators with no formal training in order to reach further in terms of societal impact. However, calling for "leisure translators" which, by the way, does not refer to the tourist industry but to people doing translations in their spare time, is a way to get cheap work while assuming that this is what many people do. No matter the project is for "a large group of academic professionals" who should be paying the usual rate for it.

I am sorry, but statements such as
"It is for a great cause and a huge effort in the Open Source online community."
"If you are a student or academic that regularly reads and engages research publications in any academic field (from anthropology to physics), this is a great opportunity to further research as you translate and earn extra cash on the side."

have really struck me. Translation takes so much more!

This is the first time I have seen in written form "leisure translators" and would like to hear/read your views about it.

Best regards,

Yolanda Morató


[Edited at 2013-04-10 10:56 GMT]


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nordiste  Identity Verified
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Łukasz Gos-Furmankiewicz  Identity Verified
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Open Source is free software, so free translation is okay Apr 19, 2013

Open Source means free software. There is nothing wrong in asking translators to contribute their free time too, just like the programmer did. That's just like NGOs or charities. Besides, an Open Source dev would probably credit the translator and appearing in the credits for anything involving Open Source would offer convincing proof of the translator's geekery and probably attract paid jobs in consequence.

[Edited at 2013-04-19 17:21 GMT]

[Edited at 2013-04-19 17:24 GMT]


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Yolanda Morato  Identity Verified
Spain
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Programmers get paid, professors get paid... and translators? Apr 19, 2013

Thinking that doing a job for free will attract well-paid jobs is a fallacy. Generally, architects, engineers, and taxi drivers don't do their jobs for free, and, by law, people who are not qualified to do them are not supposed to do them either. It obviously depends on the consideration you have for your own job. On the other hand, please do not compare a person looking to save money on professors' translated work to the great efforts carried out by many NGOs and charities. I think the comparison is just unfair.

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